[NetBehaviour] a little hit collaboration
Ken Turner
ken at sqallp.freeserve.co.uk
Thu Jul 14 12:25:24 CEST 2005
I appreciated your mid-term report and will think on meanwhile "the
finger points' painting using photoshop in the process 4x4 feet
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On 13 Jul 2005, at 17:26, rich white wrote:
> just because i want to know how you feel doesn't mean that i care;-]
>
> in my work there has been a long and steadily growing fixation with
> removing things, deleting things, censoring and blacking out. i like
> how you
> can draw attention to something merely by leaving a space where it
> used to be. i feel that this process has a lot to do with our
> perception of
> art, and things in general, that we see as important or valuable (not
> just in the monetary sense). our memories of things are often more
> real
> to us than their reality, and through this an artwork can assume
> incredible status as it's psychological existance is massaged by the
> opinions of
> others, media coverage and our own mis-remembering.
>
> http://www.counterwork.co.uk
> 07812444612
>
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:46 , Michael Szpakowski <szpako at yahoo.com> sent:
>
>>
>>
>> of the project? do
>> you feel like you have collaborated, or merely been
>> included?>
>> I don't think you should worry too much about how *we
>> feel* - I mean,we're all grown ups & its an
>> interesting little collab - and anyone who thinks that
>> an artistic collab that's worthwhile can be entirely
>> and simplemindedly egalitarian should get out more..of
>> course one sometimes struggles for more control in a
>> collab just as one might voluntarily *cede* some
>> control in a collab to see where it goes. Its not
>> politics nor is it life and death.
>> What I do find interesting is the dynamic of the
>> structure you've set up - as a participant it does
>> feel quite strange.. firstly the thing gives the
>> participant stimulus and licence to make something (
>> and I was quite sparked here -I spent a fun two hours
>> in the real world with paint and glue and things..)and
>> thus far there is the same sense of delight in making
>> that comes with exquisite corpse type projects.. but
>> then your "cutting back", editing, role in the
>> project, which has an almost combative feel, comes
>> into play -its as if you are firefighting the
>> increasingly varied stratagems for asserting their
>> individual creativity that contributors come up with.
>> Then, its as if we examine each new contribution from
>> you for its *absences* and somehow as if the art of
>> your residency inheres to a great extent in the act of
>> deletion , of omission..
>> ( Who was it who did the rubbing out exercise on a
>> drawing... Can't immediately call them to mind.)
>> What's also interesting is that there is than in turn,
>> a counter tendency set up amongst participants to
>> work, the "perversity" factor where we wilfully
>> stretch your criteria or where there is a very strong
>> individual, almost "fuck you" ( in the nicest possible
>> sense, natch) feel to folk's pieces -something I
>> detect in annie and marc's jpegs today and joseph's
>> wine glass job of a couple of days back...
>> So, far from being simplistic or banale, I think there
>> is much real nourishment here, as indeed there has
>> been with the previous residencies. Long may they
>> continue.
>> michael
>>
>>
>> http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/
>>
>> 'Everything is connected.' - V.I.Lenin
>>
>> '..and always let your unconscious be your guide.' - J.Cricket
>>
>> 'Repetition, it's so fantastic, so anti-glop'- attrib. Lou Reed
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