[NetBehaviour] Programming - art or science?

Mon May 7 00:57:45 CEST 2007

hi,

Have you read the fifth planet by fred hoyle?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle

a planetary system is discovered on a trajectory toward passing close by
earth. a group of astronaghts are sent to the fifth planet to
investigate.
they find a planet covered in green grass blues skies, and delusion...

combine with the box idea, technology, virtual reality, == firewall. is
that anywhere near your thinking?

james.

On 5/5/2007, "(?))))___" <mediaidea at arkania.org> wrote:

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><pre wrap="">assumming OS running on physical processor:---> Without an interface it
>must be entirely sealed within an object, any object (ie black box, red
>sphere, yellow pyramid). What would it be doing in there? Completely
>sealed. Any indication that it was inside would be an interface (yeah?).
>Any function provided by it outside of itself could only be by way of an
>interface(i think so). It could of course provide functionality to
>itself provided no indication of functionality outside of it exist(of
>course). Even the power cable too, that's an interface, a no-no, can't
>have(probably). Infact let's just say the thing can't even exist at
>all for practical purposes.</pre>
>---<br>
><there is at least 2 sci fi short stories in this paragraph.<br>
><br>
>1. i've been thinking for years <br>
>-thinking as writers think, not believing, but playing with the idea...-<br>
>that the kaaba's black stone<br>
>was a sort of unknown device.<br>
>i relate it to the "thing"<br>
>in kubrick's oddysey 2001.<br>
><br>
>in this case, in this short story,<br>
>the black stone would be sealed.<br>
><br>
>i don't know why, but if i write the story, <br>
>it would be no mistic development or enlightment... <br>
>i'm bored of that.<br>
>i would need to avoid that purpose and find another one.<br>
><br>
><pre wrap="">""""It could of course provide functionality
>to itself provided no indication of functionality outside of it exist
>(of course)"""""</pre>
>the power suply could be another power system. some wireless. <br>
><br>
>>>> thanks for the explanation.<br>
><br>
>if any would like to write with me this stories from this,<br>
>please, help me, specially with the technical specifications.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>james jwm-art net escribió:
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>  <pre wrap="">On 4/5/2007, "_ b _" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mediaidea at arkania.org"><mediaidea at arkania.org></a> wrote:
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>  <blockquote type="cite">
>    <pre wrap="">something to share
>just came to me
>reading what i've just read:
>________the eye can reflect an image, but it doesn't mean that the thing
>reflected is "percieve".
>..... gombrich again
>percieving - art or science
>still thinking about A or B,
>still unable to think A and B simultaneously
>percieving programming as art is an art
>percieving programming as art is a science
>percieving programming as science is an art
>percieving programming as science is a science
>    </pre>
>  </blockquote>
>  <pre wrap=""><!---->// plebian solution:
>art=0x2f10;
>science=0x310f;
>programming = (perception==art||perception==science)
>? art&science : science&art;
>  </pre>
>  <blockquote type="cite">
>    <pre wrap="">....
>..... someone talked about games, the coding of games...
>i understand it is the same, isn't it?
>code ---> interface (to read, to modify pictures, to play games... )
>mac and windows introduced interfaces; linux is pure code again...
>almost all operating system have an interface
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>???
>    </pre>
>  </blockquote>
>  <pre wrap=""><!---->assumming OS running on physical processor:---> Without an interface it
>must be entirely sealed within an object, any object (ie black box, red
>sphere, yellow pyramid). What would it be doing in there? Completely
>sealed. Any indication that it was inside would be an interface (yeah?).
>Any function provided by it outside of itself could only be by way of an
>interface(i think so). It could of course provide functionality to
>itself provided no indication of functionality outside of it exist(of
>course). Even the power cable too, that's an interface, a no-no, can't
>have(probably). Infact let's just say the thing can't even exist at
>all for practical purposes.
>  </pre>
>  <blockquote type="cite">
>    <pre wrap="">only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>only pure code without interfaces is art-science
>    </pre>
>  </blockquote>
>  <pre wrap=""><!---->....
>jwm-art kernel exception:0xbada555
>.....>>      8. Skillful plan; device.
>  </pre>
>  <blockquote type="cite">
>    <blockquote type="cite">
>      <pre wrap="">        [1913 Webster]
>              They employed every art to soothe . . . the
>              discontented warriors.                --Macaulay.
>  ..............[1913 Webster]
>      </pre>
>    </blockquote>
>  </blockquote>
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