[NetBehaviour] can you help us translate these hackers?

marc garrett marc.garrett at furtherfield.org
Thu Aug 14 18:45:26 CEST 2008


Hi Ana,

Over a period over 12 years now, we have had so many different problems. 
One of the main issues in regard to server vulnerability for us, has 
usually been whether things have been done when certain individuals said 
that they had done them. At the time, you think everything was all dealt 
with, and then it takes an emergency such as a diskdrive dying on the 
server or a hack to see how things really are.

One of the problems we have had, is to do with the fact that we so many 
different things on one server. Some of the projects (artware) 
themselves can cause problems, leaving the server open to hacks.

LIke you mentioned, blogs can be pretty awful. This is more problematic 
due to spam. We sometimes get spambots hammering the blogs with relays 
of rubbish. weighing down the server till it crashes. This can sometimes 
happen with Netbehaviour as well. FIlling up mailboxes...

The other thing, is that we have other people on the server, who have 
their own projects - they can sometimes leave telnet open, and a hacker 
finds their way in this way.

This time - they managed to hack themselves an admin password onto the 
furtherfield cms and actually change the content itself. The funny thing 
is - I could see them doing it as I looked at the interface, before my 
very eyes today. So, it was caught immediately. It could of been much worse.

One of the main problems for us is that, we are a victim of our own 
success. We've got an awful lot of people using all the different types 
of platforms, connected to furtherfield, such as furthernoise, 
vs-studios, ff-blog & netbehaviour, this increases the amount of things 
that could go wrong. Furthernoise & Furtherfield are hand coded, made to 
spec PHP CMS, then you've got the blogs which are mainly drupal, then 
you've got vs-studio which is a hybrid adhoc of flash, html & perl 
scripting etc, as well as other stuff all on one server.

One of the solutions, which we will be dealing with in the future will 
be to make al the systems drupal - those which are not actual artware 
projects that is...

The main issue is working with people though. Communication and follow 
through are the main key issues for us. This is because Ruth, myself & 
Neil used to everything ourselves, but because times have changed with 
other projects needing attention, and there are others out there who are 
more highly skilled than we are now, plus we cannot do everything - 
other factors come into play...

The other problem is managing this chaotic, networked community of beasts!

I can't complain - I love the communities that I am part of and would 
not be involved in anything else:-)

marc


i Marc and Ruth. Our green site Ekopolitan, www.ekopolitan.com is hacked 
a few times every week, they find loopholes in our system and hijack our 
databases and our registers. My friend Mats think it's a try to use our 
site to store pictures and send them in massive mail attacks. Our site 
is made in Joomla and it seems Joomla is very vulnerable to hackers. We 
turned off our blog system and our comments and it went down. Do you 
think the hackers who attack Furtherfield use the same method and sneak 
in the site through the blogs and the comments?
Ana

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM, marc garrett 
<marc.garrett at furtherfield.org> wrote:

    Hi Renee,

    Thanks for the support,

    As many know, we have been hacked a few times already. This
    (thankfully), is not as bad as the others - we have isolated the
    problems. There are other complications (as usual) but we are gradually
    dealing with them as well. The site is stable, but data will not be 100%
    restored until tomorrow...

    wishing you well.

    marc


    > Hey Marc, Ruth and other furtherfielders,
    >
    > Hang in there and much strength getting things up and rolling again.
    >
    > Renee
    > On 14 Aug 2008, at 14:29, Ruth Catlow wrote:
    >
    >> hi Netbehaviourists,
    >>
    >> Furtherfield is currently under attack.
    >>
    >> Searches point us to this URL
    >> http://www.3asfh.net/vb/showthread.php?p=607361
    >>
    >> Can anyone give us enough of a translation to understand more about
    >> what's behind this?
    >>
    >> cheers
    >> Ruth
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