[NetBehaviour] Distant

marc garrett marc.garrett at furtherfield.org
Sun Mar 9 11:42:45 CET 2008


Hi Annie,

Thank you in return...


marc
> indeed
> thanks for sharing Marc
>  
> Annie
>
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:09 AM, beëXperiments <mediaidea at arkania.org 
> <mailto:mediaidea at arkania.org>> wrote:
>
>     that's beautiful, marc, grand to read it,
>
>     "i am still learning"
>
>     :)
>
>     grand....
>
>
>     thank u so much 4 sharing,
>
>
>
>     marc garrett escribió:
>     > Hi Edward,
>     >
>     > Sorry for taking time in getting back to you, it has been a bit
>     busy at
>     > this end...
>     >
>     > Firstly, I am glad that you have found time to explore and
>     experience
>     > the work, as well as appreciate the art within it...
>     >
>     > This means a lot to me because I wish to reach people in a way
>     like art
>     > used to, or at least see if it is still possible via this form
>     of making
>     > art.
>     >
>     >  >To me the most poignant screen is the one where someone's
>     lounging on
>     > a river-bank, and we get the sound of the running water - it
>     should be
>     > an idyllic scene - but both the figure on the bank and the river
>     itself
>     > have been removed and replaced by the fizzy background. It's as if
>     > technology is like an acid eating away parts of life.
>     >
>     > "It's as if technology is like an acid eating away parts of
>     life."E_Picot.
>     >
>     > Your statement is very interesting to me personally because, I
>     feel as
>     > though this is issue concerns all of us. I am someone who has
>     loved the
>     > advancement of what technology has given us, yet at the same time my
>     > 'luddite' sentiments do seem to be re-emerging in respect of not
>     wanting
>     > to be caught up in the perpetually grinding force of capitalism's,
>     > non-contextual and mechanistic colonisation of our cultures.
>     Which is
>     > driven mainly by product using the illusion of freedom as a
>     consumer led
>     > selling point.
>     >
>     >  >But why is it called "Distant"? Most of the photographs look
>     rather
>     > old - they're black and white, of course. Does the title
>     indicate that
>     > they refer to an earlier era, a simpler way of life which has
>     now become
>     > distant from us because of technology?
>     >
>     > The images are found images, from various sources on the Internet.
>     >
>     > The photographs communicated to me, a kind of sadness. Many of the
>     > images that I seemed to be moved by, were black and white and
>     from early
>     > 1900's. They reflected something poignant to me, about my own
>     inevitable
>     > death and some friends that I have lost through the years. When
>     I cut
>     > out the identities so that they could be used In 'Distant', I
>     began to
>     > imagine myself and past friends in them. Some who I have no
>     contact with
>     > any more, some who have passed away.
>     >
>     > One of the reasons that I chose black and white was because, I
>     wanted
>     > the piece to be quiet and not too loud and brash, like most
>     other things
>     > in life - away from the sectacle.
>     >
>     >  >And, to repeat my opening question, why is it Net Art rather
>     than any
>     > other type of new media?
>     >
>     > To be honest, I do think that this question has been easy for
>     anyone who
>     > has termed part of their practice, as net art. Yet I personally
>     think
>     > that my piece has a spirit of net art, not necessarily in close
>     relation
>     > to the medium itself, but more to do with the fact that I have a
>     history
>     > of making net art and that all the material within the artwork,
>     comes
>     > from the Internet 'totally', rather than from any other primary
>     source,
>     > in respect of its making and craft.
>     >
>     > The problem with saying that you do net art now, is that
>     technology has
>     > moved on so much that the case for net art an accepted from of
>     practice
>     > is 'of course', not so accepted. Yet, I still willing to explore
>     what
>     > this is for myself, on my own terms - and feel it for a bit and
>     see if
>     > my net art is more than just theorised labels by those who are
>     merely
>     > 'distant' from its actual practice themselves...
>     >
>     > I'm still learning :-)
>     >
>     > marc
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Marc -
>     >
>     > I've come to this after a gap of several days, but I'd be
>     interested to
>     > know why you would characterise it as a piece of Net Art rather
>     than any
>     > other type of new media.
>     >
>     > I mean, I like it. It's nice and simple to navigate, it's got
>     unity of
>     > style (all the photos in black and white, all about the same
>     size, and
>     > all with that zizzy cross-hatching shimmering away in the
>     background),
>     > and I like the idea of cutting away all the human figures, and
>     various
>     > bits of the landscape or cityscape, so that the background
>     always seems
>     > to be bursting through. What I particularly like is the way that the
>     > sound is used. Given that the fizzy cross-hatched background seems
>     > suggestive of the net, interference/electricity, technology in
>     general,
>     > the obvious thing to do would have been to have some kind of
>     crackling
>     > static soundtrack, instead of which you've used recordings of actual
>     > things and places, often suggestive of events or objects which
>     we can't
>     > see in the pictures themselves, and therefore seeming to flesh
>     out the
>     > pictures with an extra dimension, suggesting "real life" in a
>     way which
>     > the pictures themselves, cut away as they are, wouldn't. To me
>     the most
>     > poignant screen is the one where someone's lounging on a
>     river-bank, and
>     > we get the sound of the running water - it should be an idyllic
>     scene -
>     > but both the figure on the bank and the river itself have been
>     removed
>     > and replaced by the fizzy background. It's as if technology is
>     like an
>     > acid eating away parts of life.
>     >
>     > But why is it called "Distant"? Most of the photographs look
>     rather old
>     > - they're black and white, of course. Does the title indicate
>     that they
>     > refer to an earlier era, a simpler way of life which has now become
>     > distant from us because of technology? And, to repeat my opening
>     > question, why is it Net Art rather than any other type of new media?
>     >
>     > - Edward
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     >> Marc -
>     >>
>     >> I've come to this after a gap of several days, but I'd be
>     interested
>     >> to know why you would characterise it as a piece of Net Art rather
>     >> than any other type of new media.
>     >>
>     >> I mean, I like it. It's nice and simple to navigate, it's got
>     unity of
>     >> style (all the photos in black and white, all about the same
>     size, and
>     >> all with that zizzy cross-hatching shimmering away in the
>     background),
>     >> and I like the idea of cutting away all the human figures, and
>     various
>     >> bits of the landscape or cityscape, so that the background always
>     >> seems to be bursting through. What I particularly like is the
>     way that
>     >> the sound is used. Given that the fizzy cross-hatched
>     background seems
>     >> suggestive of the net, interference/electricity, technology in
>     >> general, the obvious thing to do would have been to have some
>     kind of
>     >> crackling static soundtrack, instead of which you've used
>     recordings
>     >> of actual things and places, often suggestive of events or objects
>     >> which we can't see in the pictures themselves, and therefore
>     seeming
>     >> to flesh out the pictures with an extra dimension, suggesting "real
>     >> life" in a way which the pictures themselves, cut away as they are,
>     >> wouldn't. To me the most poignant screen is the one where someone's
>     >> lounging on a river-bank, and we get the sound of the running
>     water -
>     >> it should be an idyllic scene - but both the figure on the bank and
>     >> the river itself have been removed and replaced by the fizzy
>     >> background. It's as if technology is like an acid eating away
>     parts of
>     >> life.
>     >>
>     >> But why is it called "Distant"? Most of the photographs look rather
>     >> old - they're black and white, of course. Does the title
>     indicate that
>     >> they refer to an earlier era, a simpler way of life which has now
>     >> become distant from us because of technology? And, to repeat my
>     >> opening question, why is it Net Art rather than any other type
>     of new
>     >> media?
>     >>
>     >> - Edward
>     >>
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> Semaine Annie Abrahams, pionnière de l'art sur le Net, au Laboratoire 
> NT2, à l'UQAM 
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