[NetBehaviour] open test @ net.art-jwm

james jwm-art net james at jwm-art.net
Sat Nov 1 01:13:05 CET 2008

Hi Clemos,

On 31/10/2008, "clemos" <cl3mos at gmail.com> wrote:
>this looks cool.
>did you experiment things like Markdown
>(http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/) or such text to html
>converters ?

No I've not heard of Markdown before. (nor have I experimented with any
other text to html converters). Just now took a quick look, it's quite
interesting, but has slightly different goals:

(i'm not completely sure, the area's a bit blurred)

it wants maximum readability of the _text_it_translates_ and is more
xtxexxxtx prose orientated

mine is (perhaps) more layout orientated. i want it to be easy to display
things which look like markup, and things which look like code, such as
odd sequences of characters. and i want it to be easy to display images
or links to other pages (ie main=image=ride-03, ilink=page_name,
xlink=url), so have two + two characters as delimiters for embeding
things is ok, and the @= and =@ characters are uncommon combinations.

>my suggestion for a lighter regexp (untested) :
>$pattern = "\@=([^=]*)=([^=]*)=@\siU";
>$replaces = array();
>  for($i=0;$i<count($matches[0]);$i++){
>    $full_tag = $matches[0][$i];
>    $command = $matches[1][$i];
>    $argument = $matches[2][$i];
>    $replaces[$full_tag] = my_html_generator($command,$argument);
>  }
>  $output = strtr($str,$replaces); // there's probably a faster way by

quick test of your regex:

doesn't look like it works enough for what i want:

@=b=bold text=@ is determined as an at-tag
@= and =@  is not an at-tag, just printable
<p>will display '<p>' ( <p> ), not create the <p> element

@=b=bold text with @=i=italic=@ also=@
splits as:
    1 an at tag: @=b=bold text with @=i=italic=@
    2 just text: also=@

correct form:
@=b=@alternative syntax for bold, @=i=embedding italic=@ within it.@=b=@

(ie no recursive tag detection - shudder)

@=br=@ creates <br> element
@=raw=whatever raw html you want=@
 ( ie @=\= is like an escape sequence for preserving at-tag as text )

my previous test.php script now displays my at-tags splitting function
code. if you want a quick look, scroll down to bottom of page:

>Regexp are so cool. I remember when I discovered that, I found myself
>very powerful...

They're something I've been putting off for a long time, but with a
good tutorial they're not as intimidating as they appear :-)



>On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:46 AM, james jwm-art net <james at jwm-art.net> wrote:
>> working toward open-sourcing jwm-art.net
>> text-file-based content (*)management system...
>>    *maybe mis-management
>> some lines that might be found in a text file
>> for a page on jwm-art.net:
>>    main=text=a line of text with a link to the @=ilink=test=@ page.
>>    main=text=@=<<ENDTEXTLINE=@
>>    at-tags allow links and other HTML elements to be embedded
>>    within a paragraph of text. text as presented in the text
>>    file for a page is strictly formatted to @=b=prevent=@
>>    characters used in HTML from being interpretted as such.
>>    main=image=ride-03@:image from ride-03 page.
>> testing a regular expression for detection of
>> 'at-tags' - jwm-art.net-style delimiters for
>> embedding HTML elements within text.
>>    (took eight hours to learn how to use regular)
>>    (expressions to arrive at what i thought)
>>    (worked in all cases but did not)
>> http://www.jwm-art.net/test.php
>> test:    $pat='/((?:@=[a-z]+)(?:=@|=[\S ]+?(?==@)))/';
>> actual:  $pat='/((?:@=[!a-z\\/\\\]+)(?:=@|=[\S \n]+?(?==@)))/';
>> for use: $res=preg_split($pat,$str,-1,PREG_SPLIT_DELIM_CAPTURE);
>> (((allows things like @=b=bold\nbold\nstill bold=@ (where line split in
>> file)
>> (((and @=\=display-at-tag=@ @=/=html comment=@ etc
>> (((and @=!=some kind of conditional ICROH used mainly by journal =@
>> more:
>>    http://www.jwm-art.net/light.php?p=test
>> more splitting out of functions for these things...
>> keywords page displays the first few lines from the info section of
>> a page. look here (notice links):
>> http://www.jwm-art.net/light.php?p=str-frag-1.0
>> then look at the same information in the keywords listing for that
>> http://www.jwm-art.net/light.php?p=keywords&k=chaos
>> (( code now less confuse so link never made
>> (( as link never made, never get format
>> (( so link element never dis-splayed, like old.
>> ----------
>> steps to open source
>> 1) further study of my code and thinking ways to improve it
>> 2) removing content from potential src package
>> 3) creating documentation for usage of src as content
>> 4) remember that we(i) were(was) going to help people out
>>   by closing open tags (ie for bold text, italic etc)
>>   span anyone? hmmmm, exists, but, but, maybe we have to
>>   be crawl to be kined?
>> 5) remember to investigate keyword functioning for potential
>>   code efficiency improvements(ie is it possible to avoid:
>>      grep key1 | grep key2 | grep key3 in favour of regular
>>   expression? can more advanced regexps help in keyword
>>   functioning?
>> 6) stop blabbling so much
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