[NetBehaviour] Selling software art

benjamin benjamin at cultura3.net
Tue Nov 18 15:35:20 CET 2008


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On 18 Nov 2008, at 14:23, marc garrett wrote:

> Hi Patrick & Simon,
>
> Is it an object before it turns into a consumer-based commodity, or  
> after?
>
> marc
>
>
> What makes an object art?
>
> It is clear that these objects are destined to be commodities.
>
> Can an art object be a commodity? Can commodities be art objects  
> and remain
> commodities? Is Duchamps Fountain still a urinal? I seem to remember
> somebody testing this hypothesis.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 18/11/08 13:33, "patrick simons" <patricksimons1 at googlemail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>>> Are these art objects?!
>>> patrick
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I've got some work for sale. Here's the long and short of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to be exhibiting a piece of mine called Exist.pl  
>>>>> (some of
>>>>> you may remember it as it was developed via discussions here on  
>>>>> the
>>>>> list as well as other lists) at the MakeArt festival in France  
>>>>> in a
>>>>> couple of weeks. The work will also be exhibited as part of the  
>>>>> Piksel
>>>>> festival in Bergen, Norway. Here in Iceland we have what's  
>>>>> called The
>>>>> Center for Icelandic Art. Their job is to provide financial  
>>>>> assistance
>>>>> to artists taking their work abroad. They're the only source for
>>>>> travel grants for short trips like this one. I applied, I got  
>>>>> rejected
>>>>> (with no explanation of why), I have this nagging feeling that  
>>>>> they
>>>>> don't "get" this type of art. So what I would like to do now,  
>>>>> is to
>>>>> sell copies of this work to get some funds towards the trip (I had
>>>>> already bought flight tickets before I got rejected). The work
>>>>> consists of a piece of software running on a computer. It doesn't
>>>>> produce any output but it's doing a lot of background work. So to
>>>>> provide the viewer with some information on what's going on,  
>>>>> four A2
>>>>> sized posters, displaying the source code at various stages of the
>>>>> softwares development, will be displayed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The software itself is free under the GPL license and lives at
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/existpl
>>>>>
>>>>> But I have for sale a limited edition of twenty sets of these  
>>>>> posters.
>>>>> I'll only sell them in sets. There are four posters in the set.  
>>>>> These
>>>>> are signed and numbered, high quality color prints suitable for
>>>>> framing. Ideally, they would be displayed in a row on a wall  
>>>>> with a
>>>>> computer nearby to run the software when the owner chooses (but  
>>>>> this
>>>>> entirely up to the purchaser of the work). You can see a small  
>>>>> version
>>>>> of what they look like at the following URLs:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code1.pdf
>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code2.pdf
>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code3.pdf
>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code4.pdf
>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> The price is $50 per set. If I manage to sell all twenty sets,  
>>>>> this
>>>>> will provide enough to cover printing and mailing costs, with the
>>>>> remainder being approximately what I applied for from The  
>>>>> Center for
>>>>> Icelandic Art.
>>>>>
>>>>> On top of being colorful and thought provoking, they create an
>>>>> interesting visual pattern when lined up together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please contact me offlist if you're interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pall Thayer
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *****************************
>>>>> Pall Thayer
>>>>> artist
>>>>> http://www.this.is/pallit
>>>>> *****************************
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