[NetBehaviour] Selling software art

benjamin benjamin at cultura3.net
Tue Nov 18 16:06:30 CET 2008


do you have a rhizome card sir ?


On 18 Nov 2008, at 14:45, richard willis wrote:

> sounds great, i'll take two. will i get any nectar points?
>
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> 2008/11/18 benjamin <benjamin at cultura3.net>
> Noun
> commodity (plural commodities)
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> 1995, James G. Carrier, Gifts and Commodities: Exchange and Western  
> Capitalism Since 1700, p.122[[1]]
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> 2001, Rachel Pain, Introducing Social Geographies, p. 26 [[2]]
> In human geography "commodities" usually refers to goods and  
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> 2005, William Leiss, Botterill, Jacki, Social Communication in  
> Advertising: Consumption in the Mediated Marketplace, p.307 [[3]]
> Referring to the work of Bourdieu, Zukin (2004,38) notes that  
> shopping is much more than the purchase of commodities
> Something useful or valuable.
> And Slade said: "It really makes me sad that football club chairmen  
> and boards seem to have lost that most precious commodity -  
> patience. "Sam's sacking at Newcastle had, I suppose, been on the  
> cards for a while, but it is really ridiculous to fire a manager  
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> (marketing) Undifferentiated goods characterized by a low profit  
> margin, as distinguished from branded products.
> Although they were once in the forefront of consumer electronics,  
> the calculators have become a mere commodity.
>
>
> On 18 Nov 2008, at 14:23, marc garrett wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick & Simon,
>>
>> Is it an object before it turns into a consumer-based commodity,  
>> or after?
>>
>> marc
>>
>>
>> What makes an object art?
>>
>> It is clear that these objects are destined to be commodities.
>>
>> Can an art object be a commodity? Can commodities be art objects  
>> and remain
>> commodities? Is Duchamps Fountain still a urinal? I seem to remember
>> somebody testing this hypothesis.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/08 13:33, "patrick simons"  
>> <patricksimons1 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Are these art objects?!
>>>> patrick
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Pall Thayer  
>>>> <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I've got some work for sale. Here's the long and short of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to be exhibiting a piece of mine called Exist.pl  
>>>>>> (some of
>>>>>> you may remember it as it was developed via discussions here  
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> list as well as other lists) at the MakeArt festival in France  
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> couple of weeks. The work will also be exhibited as part of  
>>>>>> the Piksel
>>>>>> festival in Bergen, Norway. Here in Iceland we have what's  
>>>>>> called The
>>>>>> Center for Icelandic Art. Their job is to provide financial  
>>>>>> assistance
>>>>>> to artists taking their work abroad. They're the only source for
>>>>>> travel grants for short trips like this one. I applied, I got  
>>>>>> rejected
>>>>>> (with no explanation of why), I have this nagging feeling that  
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> don't "get" this type of art. So what I would like to do now,  
>>>>>> is to
>>>>>> sell copies of this work to get some funds towards the trip (I  
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> already bought flight tickets before I got rejected). The work
>>>>>> consists of a piece of software running on a computer. It doesn't
>>>>>> produce any output but it's doing a lot of background work. So to
>>>>>> provide the viewer with some information on what's going on,  
>>>>>> four A2
>>>>>> sized posters, displaying the source code at various stages of  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> softwares development, will be displayed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The software itself is free under the GPL license and lives at
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/existpl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I have for sale a limited edition of twenty sets of these  
>>>>>> posters.
>>>>>> I'll only sell them in sets. There are four posters in the  
>>>>>> set. These
>>>>>> are signed and numbered, high quality color prints suitable for
>>>>>> framing. Ideally, they would be displayed in a row on a wall  
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> computer nearby to run the software when the owner chooses  
>>>>>> (but this
>>>>>> entirely up to the purchaser of the work). You can see a small  
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of what they look like at the following URLs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code1.pdf
>>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code2.pdf
>>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code3.pdf
>>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code4.pdf
>>>>>> <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The price is $50 per set. If I manage to sell all twenty sets,  
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> will provide enough to cover printing and mailing costs, with the
>>>>>> remainder being approximately what I applied for from The  
>>>>>> Center for
>>>>>> Icelandic Art.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On top of being colorful and thought provoking, they create an
>>>>>> interesting visual pattern when lined up together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please contact me offlist if you're interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pall Thayer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *****************************
>>>>>> Pall Thayer
>>>>>> artist
>>>>>> http://www.this.is/pallit
>>>>>> *****************************
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>> Simon Biggs
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>> edinburgh college of art
>> s.biggs at eca.ac.uk
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