[NetBehaviour] Selling software art

Pall Thayer pallthay at gmail.com
Wed Nov 19 01:25:30 CET 2008


I would say that in the case of mass-produced items, then yes, it's a
commodity if there's demand. But in the case of art, it's a commodity
if there's a price.

Pall

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Karl Heinz Jeron <mail at khjeron.de> wrote:
> Its not a commodity unless there is demand.
> Depending on how you look at things/commodities/art they might appear
> different. And keep in mind you only see what you know.
>
> Simon Biggs schrieb:
>> What makes an object art?
>>
>> It is clear that these objects are destined to be commodities.
>>
>> Can an art object be a commodity? Can commodities be art objects and
>> remain commodities? Is Duchamps Fountain still a urinal? I seem to
>> remember somebody testing this hypothesis.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/08 13:33, "patrick simons" <patricksimons1 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Are these art objects?!
>>     patrick
>>
>>     On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         I've got some work for sale. Here's the long and short of it.
>>
>>         I'm going to be exhibiting a piece of mine called Exist.pl
>>         (some of
>>         you may remember it as it was developed via discussions here
>>         on the
>>         list as well as other lists) at the MakeArt festival in France
>>         in a
>>         couple of weeks. The work will also be exhibited as part of
>>         the Piksel
>>         festival in Bergen, Norway. Here in Iceland we have what's
>>         called The
>>         Center for Icelandic Art. Their job is to provide financial
>>         assistance
>>         to artists taking their work abroad. They're the only source for
>>         travel grants for short trips like this one. I applied, I got
>>         rejected
>>         (with no explanation of why), I have this nagging feeling that
>>         they
>>         don't "get" this type of art. So what I would like to do now,
>>         is to
>>         sell copies of this work to get some funds towards the trip (I had
>>         already bought flight tickets before I got rejected). The work
>>         consists of a piece of software running on a computer. It doesn't
>>         produce any output but it's doing a lot of background work. So to
>>         provide the viewer with some information on what's going on,
>>         four A2
>>         sized posters, displaying the source code at various stages of the
>>         softwares development, will be displayed.
>>
>>         The software itself is free under the GPL license and lives at
>>         http://code.google.com/p/existpl
>>
>>         But I have for sale a limited edition of twenty sets of these
>>         posters.
>>         I'll only sell them in sets. There are four posters in the
>>         set. These
>>         are signed and numbered, high quality color prints suitable for
>>         framing. Ideally, they would be displayed in a row on a wall
>>         with a
>>         computer nearby to run the software when the owner chooses
>>         (but this
>>         entirely up to the purchaser of the work). You can see a small
>>         version
>>         of what they look like at the following URLs:
>>
>>         http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code1.pdf
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>         http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code2.pdf
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>         http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code3.pdf
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>         http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code4.pdf
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>         <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>
>>         The price is $50 per set. If I manage to sell all twenty sets,
>>         this
>>         will provide enough to cover printing and mailing costs, with the
>>         remainder being approximately what I applied for from The
>>         Center for
>>         Icelandic Art.
>>
>>         On top of being colorful and thought provoking, they create an
>>         interesting visual pattern when lined up together.
>>
>>         Please contact me offlist if you're interested.
>>
>>         Pall Thayer
>>
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>>
>> Simon Biggs
>> Research Professor
>> edinburgh college of art
>> s.biggs at eca.ac.uk
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>>
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>>
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