[NetBehaviour] Selling software art

Geert Dekkers geert at nznl.com
Wed Nov 19 14:30:18 CET 2008


Hey Pall

It seems I was using an old address that bounced back to me. So as I  
don't have a current address, could you contact me please?

(Because I'm interested in buying a set irrespective of their status  
as art objects :))

Geert


On Nov 19, 2008, at 1:25 AM, Pall Thayer wrote:

> I would say that in the case of mass-produced items, then yes, it's a
> commodity if there's demand. But in the case of art, it's a commodity
> if there's a price.
>
> Pall
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Karl Heinz Jeron <mail at khjeron.de>  
> wrote:
>> Its not a commodity unless there is demand.
>> Depending on how you look at things/commodities/art they might appear
>> different. And keep in mind you only see what you know.
>>
>> Simon Biggs schrieb:
>>> What makes an object art?
>>>
>>> It is clear that these objects are destined to be commodities.
>>>
>>> Can an art object be a commodity? Can commodities be art objects and
>>> remain commodities? Is Duchamps Fountain still a urinal? I seem to
>>> remember somebody testing this hypothesis.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18/11/08 13:33, "patrick simons"  
>>> <patricksimons1 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Are these art objects?!
>>>    patrick
>>>
>>>    On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com>
>>>    wrote:
>>>
>>>        I've got some work for sale. Here's the long and short of it.
>>>
>>>        I'm going to be exhibiting a piece of mine called Exist.pl
>>>        (some of
>>>        you may remember it as it was developed via discussions here
>>>        on the
>>>        list as well as other lists) at the MakeArt festival in  
>>> France
>>>        in a
>>>        couple of weeks. The work will also be exhibited as part of
>>>        the Piksel
>>>        festival in Bergen, Norway. Here in Iceland we have what's
>>>        called The
>>>        Center for Icelandic Art. Their job is to provide financial
>>>        assistance
>>>        to artists taking their work abroad. They're the only  
>>> source for
>>>        travel grants for short trips like this one. I applied, I got
>>>        rejected
>>>        (with no explanation of why), I have this nagging feeling  
>>> that
>>>        they
>>>        don't "get" this type of art. So what I would like to do now,
>>>        is to
>>>        sell copies of this work to get some funds towards the trip  
>>> (I had
>>>        already bought flight tickets before I got rejected). The  
>>> work
>>>        consists of a piece of software running on a computer. It  
>>> doesn't
>>>        produce any output but it's doing a lot of background work.  
>>> So to
>>>        provide the viewer with some information on what's going on,
>>>        four A2
>>>        sized posters, displaying the source code at various stages  
>>> of the
>>>        softwares development, will be displayed.
>>>
>>>        The software itself is free under the GPL license and lives  
>>> at
>>>        http://code.google.com/p/existpl
>>>
>>>        But I have for sale a limited edition of twenty sets of these
>>>        posters.
>>>        I'll only sell them in sets. There are four posters in the
>>>        set. These
>>>        are signed and numbered, high quality color prints suitable  
>>> for
>>>        framing. Ideally, they would be displayed in a row on a wall
>>>        with a
>>>        computer nearby to run the software when the owner chooses
>>>        (but this
>>>        entirely up to the purchaser of the work). You can see a  
>>> small
>>>        version
>>>        of what they look like at the following URLs:
>>>
>>>        http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code1.pdf
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code1.pdf>
>>>        http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code2.pdf
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code2.pdf>
>>>        http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code3.pdf
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code3.pdf>
>>>        http://pallit.lhi.is/~palli/code4.pdf
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>>        <http://pallit.lhi.is/%7Epalli/code4.pdf>
>>>
>>>        The price is $50 per set. If I manage to sell all twenty  
>>> sets,
>>>        this
>>>        will provide enough to cover printing and mailing costs,  
>>> with the
>>>        remainder being approximately what I applied for from The
>>>        Center for
>>>        Icelandic Art.
>>>
>>>        On top of being colorful and thought provoking, they create  
>>> an
>>>        interesting visual pattern when lined up together.
>>>
>>>        Please contact me offlist if you're interested.
>>>
>>>        Pall Thayer
>>>
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>>> Simon Biggs
>>> Research Professor
>>> edinburgh college of art
>>> s.biggs at eca.ac.uk
>>> www.eca.ac.uk
>>> www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
>>>
>>> simon at littlepig.org.uk
>>> www.littlepig.org.uk
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>>>
>>> Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in  
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