[NetBehaviour] Yes... another new version

Sat Sep 20 19:51:55 CEST 2008

Yeah it could have been 8008, 8080, 8000 or 8888 (which is my personal
favourite :) )...
Your thoughts about Google remind me the "Binary Search Tree 2" here :
http://drunkmenworkhere.org/

++++++
Clément

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Clément,
> For the simple reason that I'm already running a webserver on port 80
> and 8181 is another common port to run a webserver on. I'm hoping that
> it will attract, for instance, Google's indexing bots and the
> program's "knowledge" will be indexed in Google's searches. I don't
> know why, I just think it's sort of interesting. exist.pl is sort of a
> low-tech attempt at AI that is more likely than naught destined to
> fail, Google's indexing, on the other hand, attempts very high level
> AI. So what might this high-level AI make of this low-level AI. Will
> the high-level AI recognize that there's this program out there
> attempting a philosophical understanding of what it means to exist as
> running software? Perhaps Google's indexing bots will be smitten by
> this and begin a more philosophical analysis of the material that it's
> indexing. Who knows? You know, everyone, if you spread the link to
> exist.pl's communications socket around the web, Google's bot's are
> going to hit it more frequently. So if you have nothing better to add
> to your blog/twitter/delicious bookmarks, how about adding
> http://pallit.lhi.is:8181/something
>
> best r.
> Pall
>
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:34 PM, clemos <cl3mos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wonder something. Why 8181 ?
>>
>> +++++
>> Clément
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> When you get back into the swing of things it just comes pouring out,
>>> eh? Well, I have yet another new version of exist.pl out. This is a
>>> pretty major upgrade. It adds something that wasn't necessarily
>>> supposed to happen in this project. I've decided that instead of it
>>> responding with it's source-code it should respond with a full dump
>>> out of everything it knows. So that is what it does now. You get to
>>> see how it is aware of all other processes running on the same
>>> computer, where it locates itself in that group. How it monitors its
>>> process ID as a way of reconfirming its 'state of being' and how it's
>>> aware of it's "physical" existence as a file within a filesystem on a
>>> computer's hard drive. As I mentioned in the last revision, comments
>>> sent to it over it's open tcp socket will now accumulate, identified
>>> only by the time they were received. This is what will be interesting
>>> to monitor. Will this new influx of an awareness of intelligent beings
>>> in the "outer world" cause something unexpected to happen within the
>>> program. Who knows? I'd really like to hear some comments from people
>>> about this. It almost feels like I'm cheating. Remember, it was
>>> supposed to be an "introspective" exploration. I feel like I've sort
>>> of violated that by creating the possibility of peering into the
>>> program's mind.
>>>
>>> I copy of the new revision is running on my server. Here's what you
>>> can do to "interact":
>>>
>>> using a web browser: the url is http://pallit.lhi.is:8181 visiting
>>> this link will only send a GET / HTTP/1.1 message. If you want to
>>> include a custom message make the url something like this:
>>> http://pallit.lhi.is:8181/message to send here
>>>
>>> The other way to connect is through telnet. If you're using a Mac, you
>>> have a telnet client. Open a Terminal window and type:
>>>
>>> telnet pallit.lhi.is 8181
>>>
>>> and hit return. You will see a prompt. Type in your message and hit
>>> return. The program will receive your message, send its response and
>>> close the connection.
>>>
>>> Or you can take the source-code and play around with it and maybe turn
>>> it into something entirely different. Or print it onto fabric and make
>>> a shirt or skirt out of it. Send it to one of those places that will
>>> print custom text on toilet paper for you. It's all up to you. Here is
>>> the latest source:
>>>
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>> use Cwd qw(realpath);
>>> use Data::Dumper;
>>> use IO::Socket;
>>>
>>> =pod
>>> LICENSE
>>> exist.pl is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it
>>> under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
>>> Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your
>>> option) any later version.
>>>
>>> exist.pl is distributed in the hope that it will be enlightening, but
>>> WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>>> ENLIGHTENMENT, MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>>> See the GNU General Public License for more details.
>>>
>>> You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
>>> along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
>>> =cut
>>>
>>> ### exist.pl ###
>>>
>>> my %awareness; # foundation for self-awareness
>>>
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'} = realpath($0); #
>>> self-awareness of own presence
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'} = $$; # self-awareness
>>> of existing as a functional being
>>>
>>> # Open up a tcp socket on port 8181 so that other processes can
>>> communicate with me
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'communicator'} =
>>> IO::Socket::INET->new( Proto => 'tcp',
>>> LocalPort => '8181',
>>> Listen => SOMAXCONN,
>>> Reuse => 1,
>>> Timeout => .5);
>>>
>>> # examination of inner qualities
>>> open(FILE, $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'});
>>> my @my_self = <FILE>;
>>> close(FILE);
>>>
>>> while(-e $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'}){
>>> if($awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'}){
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'} = $$; # redetermine
>>> existence as functional being
>>> ($irrelevant, $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_my_environment'})
>>> = `ps p $$`; # discover how my environment sees me
>>>
>>> my @all_beings = `ps axo pid,tt,stat,time,command`; # check on the
>>> existence of other functional beings in my environment
>>> shift(@all_beings);
>>>
>>> my $count = 0;
>>> foreach(@all_beings){
>>> if($awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_my_environment'} eq $_){
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_others'}->{'my_position'}
>>> = $count; # note my occurrence within the scope of everything
>>> }else{
>>> $awareness{'other_beings'}->{'being'.$count} = $_; # note the
>>> occurrence of other beings within the scope of everything
>>> }
>>> $count++;
>>> }
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_others'}->{'total_beings'}
>>> = $count; # note the abundance of beings within my environment
>>> }else{
>>> last; # if I can't reconfirm my location go into life-sustaining panic mode
>>> }
>>>
>>> # Check if anyone is waiting to communicate with me
>>> while($other_being =
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'communicator'}->accept()){
>>> my $timestamp = time();
>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'contact'}->{'said_to_me'}->{$timestamp}
>>> = <$other_being>; # listen and record what is said
>>> # print $other_being @my_self; # respond with own source code
>>> print $other_being Dumper %awareness;
>>> }
>>> close $other_being; # close connection, I have nothing more to say
>>> }
>>>
>>> ### life-sustaining panic mode/desire to live
>>> open(FILE, ">$awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'}"); # attempt to
>>> re-create myself
>>> print FILE @my_self; # restore my inner qualities
>>> close(FILE);
>>> ### pass out and await revival
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Pall Thayer
>>>
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