[NetBehaviour] Yes... another new version

Sat Sep 20 20:06:44 CEST 2008

Hey the Binary Search Tree 2 looks really cool. Thanks for pointing
that out. Some of their other stuff looks quite interesting as well.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:51 PM, clemos <cl3mos at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah it could have been 8008, 8080, 8000 or 8888 (which is my personal
> favourite :) )...
> Your thoughts about Google remind me the "Binary Search Tree 2" here :
> http://drunkmenworkhere.org/
>
> ++++++
> Clément
>
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Clément,
>> For the simple reason that I'm already running a webserver on port 80
>> and 8181 is another common port to run a webserver on. I'm hoping that
>> it will attract, for instance, Google's indexing bots and the
>> program's "knowledge" will be indexed in Google's searches. I don't
>> know why, I just think it's sort of interesting. exist.pl is sort of a
>> low-tech attempt at AI that is more likely than naught destined to
>> fail, Google's indexing, on the other hand, attempts very high level
>> AI. So what might this high-level AI make of this low-level AI. Will
>> the high-level AI recognize that there's this program out there
>> attempting a philosophical understanding of what it means to exist as
>> running software? Perhaps Google's indexing bots will be smitten by
>> this and begin a more philosophical analysis of the material that it's
>> indexing. Who knows? You know, everyone, if you spread the link to
>> exist.pl's communications socket around the web, Google's bot's are
>> going to hit it more frequently. So if you have nothing better to add
>> to your blog/twitter/delicious bookmarks, how about adding
>> http://pallit.lhi.is:8181/something
>>
>> best r.
>> Pall
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:34 PM, clemos <cl3mos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I wonder something. Why 8181 ?
>>>
>>> +++++
>>> Clément
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> When you get back into the swing of things it just comes pouring out,
>>>> eh? Well, I have yet another new version of exist.pl out. This is a
>>>> pretty major upgrade. It adds something that wasn't necessarily
>>>> supposed to happen in this project. I've decided that instead of it
>>>> responding with it's source-code it should respond with a full dump
>>>> out of everything it knows. So that is what it does now. You get to
>>>> see how it is aware of all other processes running on the same
>>>> computer, where it locates itself in that group. How it monitors its
>>>> process ID as a way of reconfirming its 'state of being' and how it's
>>>> aware of it's "physical" existence as a file within a filesystem on a
>>>> computer's hard drive. As I mentioned in the last revision, comments
>>>> sent to it over it's open tcp socket will now accumulate, identified
>>>> only by the time they were received. This is what will be interesting
>>>> to monitor. Will this new influx of an awareness of intelligent beings
>>>> in the "outer world" cause something unexpected to happen within the
>>>> program. Who knows? I'd really like to hear some comments from people
>>>> about this. It almost feels like I'm cheating. Remember, it was
>>>> supposed to be an "introspective" exploration. I feel like I've sort
>>>> of violated that by creating the possibility of peering into the
>>>> program's mind.
>>>>
>>>> I copy of the new revision is running on my server. Here's what you
>>>> can do to "interact":
>>>>
>>>> using a web browser: the url is http://pallit.lhi.is:8181 visiting
>>>> this link will only send a GET / HTTP/1.1 message. If you want to
>>>> include a custom message make the url something like this:
>>>> http://pallit.lhi.is:8181/message to send here
>>>>
>>>> The other way to connect is through telnet. If you're using a Mac, you
>>>> have a telnet client. Open a Terminal window and type:
>>>>
>>>> telnet pallit.lhi.is 8181
>>>>
>>>> and hit return. You will see a prompt. Type in your message and hit
>>>> return. The program will receive your message, send its response and
>>>> close the connection.
>>>>
>>>> Or you can take the source-code and play around with it and maybe turn
>>>> it into something entirely different. Or print it onto fabric and make
>>>> a shirt or skirt out of it. Send it to one of those places that will
>>>> print custom text on toilet paper for you. It's all up to you. Here is
>>>> the latest source:
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>> use Cwd qw(realpath);
>>>> use Data::Dumper;
>>>> use IO::Socket;
>>>>
>>>> =pod
>>>> LICENSE
>>>> exist.pl is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it
>>>> under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
>>>> Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your
>>>> option) any later version.
>>>>
>>>> exist.pl is distributed in the hope that it will be enlightening, but
>>>> WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
>>>> ENLIGHTENMENT, MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>>>> See the GNU General Public License for more details.
>>>>
>>>> You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
>>>> along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
>>>> =cut
>>>>
>>>> ### exist.pl ###
>>>>
>>>> my %awareness; # foundation for self-awareness
>>>>
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'} = realpath($0); #
>>>> self-awareness of own presence
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'} = $$; # self-awareness
>>>> of existing as a functional being
>>>>
>>>> # Open up a tcp socket on port 8181 so that other processes can
>>>> communicate with me
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'communicator'} =
>>>> IO::Socket::INET->new( Proto => 'tcp',
>>>> LocalPort => '8181',
>>>> Listen => SOMAXCONN,
>>>> Reuse => 1,
>>>> Timeout => .5);
>>>>
>>>> # examination of inner qualities
>>>> open(FILE, $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'});
>>>> my @my_self = <FILE>;
>>>> close(FILE);
>>>>
>>>> while(-e $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'}){
>>>> if($awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'}){
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'state_of_being'} = $$; # redetermine
>>>> existence as functional being
>>>> ($irrelevant, $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_my_environment'})
>>>> = `ps p $$`; # discover how my environment sees me
>>>>
>>>> my @all_beings = `ps axo pid,tt,stat,time,command`; # check on the
>>>> existence of other functional beings in my environment
>>>> shift(@all_beings);
>>>>
>>>> my $count = 0;
>>>> foreach(@all_beings){
>>>> if($awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_my_environment'} eq $_){
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_others'}->{'my_position'}
>>>> = $count; # note my occurrence within the scope of everything
>>>> }else{
>>>> $awareness{'other_beings'}->{'being'.$count} = $_; # note the
>>>> occurrence of other beings within the scope of everything
>>>> }
>>>> $count++;
>>>> }
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'to_others'}->{'total_beings'}
>>>> = $count; # note the abundance of beings within my environment
>>>> }else{
>>>> last; # if I can't reconfirm my location go into life-sustaining panic mode
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> # Check if anyone is waiting to communicate with me
>>>> while($other_being =
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'communicator'}->accept()){
>>>> my $timestamp = time();
>>>> $awareness{'my_existence'}->{'relations'}->{'contact'}->{'said_to_me'}->{$timestamp}
>>>> = <$other_being>; # listen and record what is said
>>>> # print $other_being @my_self; # respond with own source code
>>>> print $other_being Dumper %awareness;
>>>> }
>>>> close $other_being; # close connection, I have nothing more to say
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> ### life-sustaining panic mode/desire to live
>>>> open(FILE, ">$awareness{'my_existence'}->{'location'}"); # attempt to
>>>> re-create myself
>>>> print FILE @my_self; # restore my inner qualities
>>>> close(FILE);
>>>> ### pass out and await revival
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Pall Thayer
>>>>
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