[NetBehaviour] why i'm tempted to delete vista

Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Thu Aug 20 19:24:38 CEST 2009



Wow! This is beautiful and beyond me; I'm using Kubuntu on a flashdrive, 
and old linux on Sharp Zaurses plus a debian (forget which version) on an 
Asus EEE PC - none of this providing the right environment. I might try 
things w/ the flashdrive though - it's largely empty, since I mount the 
windows directories.

- Alan, thinking what you wrote is also beautiful text -


On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, james morris wrote:

>
> Hi Alan,
>
> As far as audio editing goes, i do recommend ardour:
>
> http://www.ardour.org
>
> i do all my tracks in this. i mean, there's other software to produce
> drum loops, and synthesis of various sorts, but i use ardour to record
> what this software produces, and then i can cut it all up and re-arrange
> until my heart's content.
>
> but make sure to check the LADSPA and LV2 plugins available, there's a
> list at:
>
> http://ardour.org/plugins
>
> but please don't try this stuff out without using a proper multimedia
> distribution of linux unless of course you'll like me and want to have
> it running in debian stable, which roughly follows this loosely
> remembered process:
>
> {{{{{{{ rambling recall follows , hopefully enough to give anyone a
> headache who has a slight inclination to try doing it this way when
> they'll only get put off if when some problem arises - there's lots to
> do, and system configuration editing /etc/* files }}}}}}
>
> [[[ you should be the type whom enjoys doing it this way :) ]]]
>
>
> (which results in a moderately lean system purely for audio production :)
>
> ((( **** but it's probably a good idea, like i have, to avoid installing
> any debian packaged software which depends on *anything* producing audio
> I/O **** ----  ie for every debian pkg you install, reject it if it
> installs any sound servers - - - because we're going to build them,
> etc)))
>
> install debian *without* any desktop environment.
> install:
>
> xdm, and Xorg (that is X Display Manager, X)
> fluxbox - a very fast and small footprint window manager with an easily
> configurable menu*
>
> next you need to figure out which packages to install to get a decent
> development platform to build the audio software src you download.
>
> basically install debian pkgs: gcc/g++/GNU make/autotools
>
> (and later you'll need scons, waf, cmake (or was it qmake).
>
> (and you could install GTK and QT development libs, sigc++ dev libs,
> glibc, dev man pages are helpful too).
>
> you'll need to build a real-time patched kernel, the RT patch is by
> Ingo Molnár. you need to match it to the kernel you build - download a
> fresh vanilla kernel from kernel.org - do not use a debian packaged
> kernel as they have already applied debian patches to it and these may
> not be compatible with the RT patches. have fun figuring out how to get
> all your hardware supported ;-)p  don't build the ALSA kernel modules
> but only enable sound support in the kernel.
>
> download and build ALSA source and libs and tools/utils whichever
> appropriate.
>
> start on libsamplerate and libsndfile in whichever order is required
> (can't recall off hand) - - - - for one of these you need FFTW -
> install the FFTW dev deb pkgs (lots of other stuff requires this too).
>
> perhaps you can build JACK now? then build sox, but first build lame,
> install libmad dev deb pkgs prior to (maybe flac+wavpack depending on if
> these require bad dependencies which install something nasty like
> esound).
>
> hmmmm. to cut a long boring story short here's ls -lhotr (date ordered)
> within the dir where i built all this stuff:
>
> total 91M
> drwxr-xr-x 13 mussys 4.0K 2000-05-05 04:07 motif
> drwxr-xr-x  2 mussys 4.0K 2005-12-20 11:42 set_rlimits-1.2.0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 mussys 4.0K 2008-05-26 06:19 ssg-1.13
> drwxr-xr-x 24 mussys 4.0K 2009-03-03 23:59 nyquist
> drwxr-xr-x  8 mussys 4.0K 2009-06-05 03:00 nedit
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-05 09:11 invada-studio-plugins-lv2-1.1.0
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 906K 2009-07-11 00:04 libsndfile-1.0.20.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-15 22:02 ZynAddSubFX-2.4.0
> drwxr-xr-x 12 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-20 11:11 icon225
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.8M 2009-07-20 12:04 patch-2.6.26.8-rt16
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 6.6M 2009-07-20 20:17
> linux-image-2.6.26.8-rt16_mussysRT.0.1_amd64.deb
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 mussys  10K 2009-07-20 20:36 realTimeConfigQuickScan.pl
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 6.2M 2009-07-20 21:21
> linux-image-2.6.26.8-rt16_mussysRT.0.2_amd64.deb
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-20 22:50 ALSA
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 922K 2009-07-20 23:06
> jack-audio-connection-kit-0.116.2.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 4.2M 2009-07-20 23:12 libsamplerate-0.1.7.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 13 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-20 23:16 libsndfile-1.0.20
> drwxr-xr-x  9 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-20 23:19 libsamplerate-0.1.7
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 336K 2009-07-20 23:31 qjackctl-0.3.4.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 986K 2009-07-20 23:40 phasex-0.12.0beta3.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 107K 2009-07-20 23:48 jack-keyboard-2.5.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 3.3M 2009-07-21 03:10 ardour-2.8.1.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 167K 2009-07-21 03:13 slv2-0.6.6.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 102K 2009-07-21 03:15 lv2core-3.0.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 03:16 lv2core-3.0
> drwxr-xr-x 12 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 03:24 slv2-0.6.6
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 368K 2009-07-21 03:30 zynjacku-5.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 252K 2009-07-21 03:32 lv2dynparam1-2.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 03:33 lv2dynparam1-2
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 03:34 zynjacku-5
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  69K 2009-07-21 03:37 zyn-1.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  3 mussys  12K 2009-07-21 03:38 zyn-1
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.4M 2009-07-21 03:55 ZynAddSubFX-2.4.0.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 251K 2009-07-21 04:07 swh-lv2-1.0.15.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 571K 2009-07-21 04:11 calf-0.0.18.5.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  73K 2009-07-21 22:30 lv2vocoder-1.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 432K 2009-07-21 22:31 ll-plugins-0.2.1.tar.bz2
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 mussys   23 2009-07-21 22:37 Downloads ->
> /home/mussys/Downloads/
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 422K 2009-07-21 22:51 lash-0.6.0~rc2.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x 12 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:02 lash-0.6.0.594
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.9K 2009-07-21 23:19 lv2-units-ext-0.4.tar
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  19K 2009-07-21 23:19 lv2_ui.h
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  12K 2009-07-21 23:21 lv2_event.h
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 6.8K 2009-07-21 23:21 lv2_event.ttl
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 8.4K 2009-07-21 23:21 lv2_event_helpers.h
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 3.6K 2009-07-21 23:21 lv2_uri_map.h
> drwxr-xr-x  2 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:34 lv2-units-ext
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  74K 2009-07-21 23:39 lv2-c++-tools-1.0.2.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:44 lv2-c++-tools-1.0.2
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:44 ll-plugins-0.2.1
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:46 jack-keyboard-2.5
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:47 calf-0.0.18.5
> drwxr-xr-x  3 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:51 lv2vocoder-1
> drwxr-xr-x 12 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-21 23:51 phasex-0.12.0
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 595K 2009-07-22 00:01 aubio-0.3.2.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 10 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-22 00:06 aubio-0.3.2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 3.6M 2009-07-22 12:50 hydrogen-0.9.4-rc1-1.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 13 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-22 13:19 hydrogen-0.9.4-rc1-1
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 146K 2009-07-22 23:59 lv2fil-2.0.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 2.5M 2009-07-23 00:16 muse-1.0rc3.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 264K 2009-07-23 00:25 jack-rack-1.4.7.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 765K 2009-07-23 00:25 rakarrack-0.3.0.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  85K 2009-07-23 00:31 Mx44.1.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  4 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 00:34 lv2fil-2.0
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.7M 2009-07-23 00:43 raptor-1.4.19.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 10 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 00:45 raptor-1.4.19
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.5M 2009-07-23 00:46 redland-1.0.9.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.1M 2009-07-23 00:48 rasqal-0.9.16.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  8 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 00:48 rasqal-0.9.16
> drwxr-xr-x  9 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 00:49 redland-1.0.9
> drwxr-xr-x 18 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 00:50 drobilla-lad
> drwxr-xr-x 23 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 01:28 linux-2.6.26.8
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 01:45 lmuse
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  41K 2009-07-23 02:04 set_rlimits-1.2.0.tgz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 167K 2009-07-23 13:00 seq24-0.9.0.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  4 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 13:02 seq24-0.9.0
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.5M 2009-07-23 13:03
> nedit-latest-sources-HEAD.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  2 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 13:15 XFCE
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 13:38 rakarrack-0.3.0
> drwxr-xr-x  6 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-23 13:44 jack-rack-1.4.7
> drwxr-xr-x  3 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-24 14:33 Mx44.1
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  17M 2009-07-24 14:48 openmotif2.1.30.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  3 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-24 14:53 nedit_cvs
> drwxr-xr-x 13 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-24 17:28 muse-1.0rc3
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 985K 2009-07-24 21:43 sox-14.3.0.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 1.3M 2009-07-24 21:43 lame-398-2.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 16 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-24 21:52 lame-398-2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 9.3K 2009-07-25 21:38 ssg-1.13.tar.bz2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 149K 2009-07-27 21:05
> invada-studio-plugins-lv2_1.1.0-0.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-07-29 13:12 swh-lv2-1.0.15
> drwxr-xr-x 11 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 11:36
> jack-audio-connection-kit-0.116.2
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 2.4M 2009-08-07 11:49 jack-1.9.3.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x 14 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 11:52 jack-1.9.3
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 11:57 qjackctl-0.3.4
> drwxr-xr-x  8 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 13:40 zynaddsubfx
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 17:22 sox-14.3.0
> drwxr-xr-x  3 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 20:01 kernel-lsm
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 6.1K 2009-08-07 21:30 linux-rtprio-0.9-raboof1.tgz
> drwxr-xr-x  2 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-07 21:31 linux-rtprio
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 6.0M 2009-08-08 11:46 nyqsrc303.zip
> drwxr-xr-x  9 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-08 13:03 ardour-2.8.1
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys  19M 2009-08-09 17:34 snd-10.8.tar.gz
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 112K 2009-08-09 18:09
> rollendurchmesserzeitsammler-0.1.5.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x  5 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-09 18:09
> rollendurchmesserzeitsammler-0.1.5
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys  16K 2009-08-09 18:25 snd-10.8
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 178K 2009-08-15 18:56 vmpk-0.2.6.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  9 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-15 18:58 vmpk-0.2.6
> drwxr-xr-x 15 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-17 18:47 LADSPA
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys 500K 2009-08-19 22:29 mhwaveedit-1.4.16.tar.bz2
> drwxr-xr-x  7 mussys 4.0K 2009-08-19 22:33 mhwaveedit-1.4.16
> -rw-r--r--  1 mussys    0 2009-08-20 17:11 install_stuff
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ************* this is nice:
>
> MY FLUXBOX MENU FILE ( ~/.fluxbox/menu )
>
> [begin] (fluxbox)
> [separator]
> [nop](MusSys)
> [separator]
> [exec] (XTerm)          {xterm}
> [exec] (Nedit)          {nedit.nc}
> [exec] (Icon225connect) {python
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/hsoc/HSOconnect.py}
> [exec] (Iceweasel)      {iceweasel}
> [separator]
> [submenu] (Audio){}
>    [separator]
> 	[exec] (Qjackctl)       {qjackctl}
> 	[exec] (Patchage)       {patchage}
> 	[exec] (Envy24 Mixer)   {envy24control}
>    [separator]
> 	[exec] (Jack Keyboard)  {jack-keyboard}
> 	[exec] (Virtual Piano Midi Keyboard) {vmpk}
> 	[exec] (Seq24)          {seq24}
> 	[exec] (Muse Seq)       {muse}
>    [separator]
> 	[exec] (Ardour2)        {ardour2}
> 	[exec] (Phasex)         {phasex}
> 	[exec] (ZynAddSubFX)    {zynaddsubfx}
> 	[exec] (ZynJackU)       {zynjacku}
> 	[exec] (Ingen)          {ingen -eg}
>    [separator]
> 	[exec] (Hydrogen)       {hydrogen}
>    [separator]
> 	[exec] (CalfJackHost)   {calfjackhost}
> 	[exec] (Rakarrack)      {rakarrack}
> 	[exec] (Jack Rack)      {jack-rack}
>    [exec] (LV2 Rack)       {lv2rack}
>    [separator]
>    [exec] (SND)            {snd}
>    [exec] (mhWaveEdit)     {mhwaveedit}
>    [separator]
> [end]
> [separator]
> [submenu](System){}
> [include] (/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu)
> [end]
> [separator]
> [end]
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