[NetBehaviour] why i'm tempted to delete vista

Fri Aug 21 02:45:31 CEST 2009

As I haven't been able to update any of my hardware in a couple of
years, I found that Ubuntu was getting a bit too bloated and heavy so
I converted to Debian with xfce. Lightweight but not "missing"
anything important. If I come across video that doesn't work on my
setup, I assume that the creator never intended for me to watch it
anyway. So I don't.

If you Windows users install Cygwin, I would recommend that you select
the option that tells it to install everything. Makes for a big
download but it also makes life easier. If you install everything you
can even run most of the Microcodes :-)

Pall

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Alan Sondheim<sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi - I've used Ubuntu, and still use it, and maybe should install the
> studio, but every editing system I've tried in linux has been a mess or
> overly professional, i.e. Kodak codecs. I know you can do endless
> configuring, but I'll stick with Premiere with is fast and lean (I have an
> early version) and does avi mov and a host of other formats. I had too
> many crashes, even in Ubuntu. I use linux for text/script and of course
> blender/gimp work well. I tried gimp film at one point and got nowhere. I
> realize there may be ways to do this, but I'd rather work literally out of
> the box. I'll look at ardour when I return from Copenhagen, though - it
> sounds like it will run well on my system.
>
> What a best OS depends on your use/facility of course. I like the fact
> that Mac^10 can emulate and has terminal, although I work in WinXp for the
> most part, as well as cygwin and linux. For people using windows, I'd
> suggest looking at cygwin which if nothing else is "fun" and runs all
> those scripts. -
>
> Thanks, Alan
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, ricardo ruiz wrote:
>
>> blah
>>
>> slackware is definatly the best OS in the world. current, 13.0 rc3, has
>> kde4, many codecs and so on.
>>
>>
>> hey, alan, you should try ubuntu studio.
>>
>> it can install a huge bunch of software for multimedia production, including
>> video editing and so on
>>
>>
>> best
>>
>> r
>>
>> 2009/8/15 james morris <james at jwm-art.net>
>>
>>>
>>> On 15/8/2009, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The issue I have with linux - it stops me cold - is video. I also think
>>>> this is true for a lot of people who otherwise might switch to the OS. (I
>>>> use it on an Asus EEE PC, on two old Sharp Zauruses, and on a Kubuntu
>>>> flashdrive.) There's no support as far as I've been able to find for .mov
>>>> or .avi which are pretty much standard. .mp4 plays as audio; there's no
>>>> handling for the H264 compression among other things. There may be fixes
>>>
>>> ffmpeg supports all these things, though while watching some of your
>>> videos, there are warnings about brainfart (!?) cropping not being fully
>>> supported. VLC is another good one, uses ffmpeg too. I've not recently
>>> had any problems watching what you produce - I don't watch much video
>>> tho - and that's in Debian which is always a bit behind the times.
>>>
>>> You should try a multimedia centric linux distro for sure.
>>>
>>>> and workarounds, but it's a nuisance. And unless you're an animation farm,
>>>> the editing is useless. I also don't like Audacity for that matter - too
>>>
>>> I've occasionally tried video editing, having never got anywhere.
>>>
>>> I really don't like Audacity, the GUI is horrible. I never use it. Try
>>> SND if you know scheme - which is where most of its functionality lies.
>>>
>>>> much of it is obscure, and at least with CoolEdit I have total control
>>>> over reverb/echo/sweetening, notch filters and the like. Linux is still a
>>>
>>> I have total control over reverb/echo/sweetening, notch filters and the
>>> like in Linux. I recently ported some old LADSPA plugins to the new LV2
>>> standard. (LADSPA and LV2 are ways of writing plugins for linux audio
>>> applications).
>>>
>>> For audio, you need JACK, ardour2 is superb though perhaps a bit overkill
>>> for your requirements ( but i'm not familiar with cooledit ) as it's a
>>> digital audio work station designed for pro studio usage/hard disk
>>> recording etc. - Again get a multimedia centric Linux distro if you
>>> don't care to set this up yourself.
>>>
>>>> hacker's paradise (I use the command like all the time), but it's way
>>>> behind on multimedia - and that's the way the world's going. So I'm stuck.
>>>> Damn!
>>>
>>> It's catching up slowly.
>>>
>>>> Can you say something about AHCI? (I think this is worthwhile for other
>>>> users on these lists, since a lot of us work linux one way or another, and
>>>> the OS is free, lean, and relatively fast.)
>>>
>>> AHCI? Advanced Host Controller Interface. It's some hardware thing for
>>> SATA  hard drives and the like. It supersedes IDE.
>>>
>>>
>>> James.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, james morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I think you are probably right about AVG, I might have just got
>>>>> carried away there. It was Zone Alarm that was playing up. Last time I
>>>>> used ZA, it seemed fine - 3 months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I've not really noticed any particular difference in disk speed
>>>>> between having AHCI on or off. In Linux, using the hdparm -t command
>>>>> shows very little difference in performance with AHCI on and disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's an article on wikipedia about AHCI and Vista, with links to
>>>>> fixes. It's nice to see that Windows has a long list of problems with
>>>>> AHCI, while Linux is only struggling with one or two issues particular
>>>>> to certain hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Intel and AMD are contributing code to the Linux kernel for it to
>>>>> work with their new technologies within their latest processors (not
>>>>> that I can afford them) while Linux is also going to be the first OS to
>>>>> support the new USB3 hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/8/2009, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more reasons -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the UAC is miserable. the audio balloons are almost impossible to turn
>>>>>> off. it's slower than XP. constant permission messiness with the
>>> console.
>>>>>> no tweakUI without paying for it. too much configuration - too many
>>>>>> effects to disable. AVG does work btw and auto-updates. I'm waiting for
>>> 7,
>>>>>> see if I can put it on top w/out losing efficiency or the programs I'm
>>>>>> using.
>>>>>> - alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, james morris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why i'm tempted to delete vista
>>>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) I must disable SATA AHCI mode in the BIOS because Vista Home
>>> Premium
>>>>>>> can't handle it. Consequently the hard drives are not operating at
>>> full
>>>>>>> speed. If I don't do this, Vista crashes around 2 seconds after it
>>>>>>> first begins booting up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) I've got no software that makes using Vista worth the hassle. I
>>> have
>>>>>>> two games, Tomb Raider, and Crysis, but I can't be bothered to play
>>>>>>> them because it feels so unproductive and a waste of time learning how
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Somewhere along the line while Windows was downloading and
>>> installing
>>>>>>> updates, it broke something. While I was fumbling around in Tomb
>>> Raider,
>>>>>>> Windows suddenly decided it had better things to do and began
>>>>>>> configuring updates. It got halfway along configuring update 2 of 3
>>> and
>>>>>>> then decided it wouldn't bother after all... it rebooted the computer
>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) The firewall and anti virus software crashed and I can't be
>>> bothered
>>>>>>> to keep updating them either. They suck. So does the trial version of
>>>>>>> the Nero or something media player which does nothing but suck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) Because I don't ever use Vista. It would free up some disk space if
>>> I
>>>>>>> were to delete it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6) It's good to do a bit of cleaning and dump things which are unused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7) It's been at least 3 months since I used Vista. And I only used it
>>>>>>> then because someone sent me a Word document as an attachment. It
>>> seemed
>>>>>>> that OpenOffice.org could not read the contents. Turned out I was sent
>>>>>>> an empty document.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ONE NOT VERY GOOD REASON WHY I SHOULD NOT DELETE VISTA
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) I might need it for some irritating reason, presently unknown to
>>> me,
>>>>>>> in the future.
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