[NetBehaviour] the recession is over

Tue Aug 25 13:04:54 CEST 2009

Poetry has always eluded me. For some reason, I'm incapable of fully
appreciating it.

Until you mentioned it, I didn't realize that your original post was a poem.
I just took it literally.

-D

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 3:56 AM, dave miller <dave.miller.uk at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi dyske
>
> I've seen some friends losing their jobs, and recently when I take the
> kids to school I see a lot of unemployed dads huddled together,
> encouraging each other.
>
> On the whole we personally haven't really been affected, money-wise
> we're still ok, though my lecturing work looks like it's now dried up.
> We have been affected by this depressing mood that's been pumped out
> by the media, though I've noticed of late that the BBC seem to be less
> alarmist and more soothing, though this feels increasingly false, and
> the news analysis feels increasingly superficial. Personally this
> whole crisis has made me more critical of the news and I try to inform
> myself much more than before.
>
> Generally life (in south London) appears to carry on as normal. People
> I know (mostly families) have been consciously cutting back, most of
> them took their annual holidays in the UK this year, and very few can
> afford to fly abroad.
>
> I think people feel the worst is over now, and this is what the news
> is telling us. I agree with you that we are probably in the eye of the
> storm and worse is to come, and that we are not being told the truth.
> I think we've all mostly bought into the story that the crisis was
> somehow a natural disaster - a global crash - that couldn't be averted
> and so it's no one person's fault. So while people may slag off
> bankers in general, they don't really blame them personally for what
> has happened, and there's no real anger. Maybe we have bailed them
> out, so we're effectively paying to put their kids through private
> school, but we don't know this for sure so best not to say.
>
> Great that my poem has got some discussion going on this!
>
> dave
>
>
> 2009/8/24 Dyske Suematsu <dyskes at gmail.com>:
> > Has it really been bad for you? If so, what have you experienced
> personally?
> >
> > I've been asking everyone I know around the world what their personal
> > experiences are with the current recession. ALL of them described some
> bad
> > experiences of their friends but NONE of them said they themselves
> suffered.
> > The general consensus is that they can feel it to some degree, but feel
> > disconnected from how things are described in the media.
> >
> > It's like how non-New Yorkers felt about 9-11. All they saw was what they
> > saw in the media. Supposedly something horrible happened but they had no
> way
> > of confirming that it's not Hollywood special effect. Many people had to
> > come all the way to New York just to see the vacant lot in the financial
> > district. They literally came to see nothing.
> >
> > Personally, I feel like the Dotcom bust was much worse than this credit
> > crisis, and other people I know have agreed.
> >
> > But a 20-something girl in my office space told me that when she was
> hanging
> > out with 10 of her friends, they realized that 6 of them lost their jobs
> > recently. This is what I was expecting for everyone around me, but I only
> > know a few people who lost their full-time jobs. I'm 42 and most of my
> > friends are around 40, so it might be that only the younger generations
> are
> > suffering.
> >
> > Ironically, New York appears to be shielded from this recession even
> though
> > we triggered the whole recession. The real estate has gone down here too,
> > but nowhere as bad as other states. Believe it or not, I hear that some
> > neighborhoods are still going up!
> >
> > Either way, recessions are good for art anyway. When the economy is good,
> we
> > become lazy, and nothing truly creative comes out, because it's better to
> > keep doing the same thing to make money.
> >
> > My own personal take on the economy is that we are in the eye of the
> storm.
> >
> > I would love to hear other people's personal accounts of the recession.
> >
> > Best,
> > D
> >
> > -
> > Dyske Suematsu
> > 419 Lafayette Street, 2nd Floor
> > New York, NY 10003
> > http://dyske.com
> > Phone: 646.723.3943
> > http://twitter.com/dyskes
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM, dave miller <dave.miller.uk at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> relax
> >> phew!
> >> cor blimey!
> >> the recession is over!
> >>
> >> It's been so bad - do you know it may actually have been a depression!
> >>
> >> But now
> >> Baby we're on our way to the moon!
> >>
> >> Oh yes it's been hairy over the past year
> >> and TV has been pretty depressing.
> >> But now there's mass jubilation and dancing in the streets
> >> fuelling gains on the FTSE
> >> and house prices are going back up.
> >>
> >> There's a remarkable upturn
> >> It's noticeable
> >> A surge in confidence among professionals
> >> Optimism
> >> Speculators and investors are getting ready
> >> Bankers bonuses are back! executive pay is up!
> >>
> >> Now we can dream about getting jobs again
> >> of going back to work
> >> We can hope for some of that famed trickle down
> >> To buy one of those big back 4x4's
> >> that we always wanted.
> >>
> >> On the other hand
> >> Please dont tell me it's phoney or it's a sucker’s rally
> >> or that economic pain has been merely delayed by massive government
> >> bailouts
> >> or what's coming is bigger and badder
> >> the mother of all meltdowns
> >> blood and thunder ...
> >>
> >> Maybe they're all lying to make it seem better?
> >> Maybe it's just an attempt to sucker in our money before a big dump by
> >> insiders?
> >> I just dont want to hear that
> >> I don't think I could bear it.
> >>
> >> Do you think it might be?
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