[NetBehaviour] a new Microcode: Vito Acconci's 'Seedbed'

Pall Thayer pallthay at gmail.com
Thu Jul 2 01:12:33 CEST 2009


That notion of the hidden was of course another thing I considered,
again due to the "Seedbed" reference. You never actually "see" the
program touching itself but you are made aware of its effects through
the printing of ls -l $myself. I saw this as being similar to
Acconci's performance where people couldn't see him but they could
hear him. So, in the same sense, no one ever actually saw him
masturbate but they were made aware of its affects by hearing his
voice.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, james morris<james at jwm-art.net> wrote:
>
> On 1/7/2009, "Pall Thayer" <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, I noticed that. I was going to link directly to them but they were gone.
>>
>>There's is a significant difference between your version and mine. In
>>your version your program is touching your user (id -un) but in my
>>version the program is touching itself (realpath($0)). This seemed the
>>more appropriate method given the "Seedbed" reference. It comes closer
>>to a notion of autoeroticism (despite the fact that there are no
>>consciously sensing beings involved).
>
> The code was my immediate concern here. To me the different idea of
> what self the idea of self was referring to was interesting. I did
> not research Vito Acconci's 'Seedbed' until after posting and
> consequently did not quite 'get it' until then.
>
> The notion of the hidden autoeroticism is interesting with regard
> to the code. Looking at the code, the autoeroticism is not hidden.
> But in the context of the code executing, the autoeroticism is
> executing in a different layer - a layer outside of perl so perhaps
> you could say it is hidden. I was wondering if there was more you
> could do with regard to this notion of the hidden?
>
> James.
>
>>On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM, james morris<james at jwm-art.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ahh! I deleted them! But they're archived on the net.
>>>
>>>
>>> a less clear version of seedbed:
>>>
>>>
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>> $myself = `id -un`;
>>> $mybody = "/home/$myself";
>>> while(1){
>>>  `touch $mybody`;
>>>  print `ls -ld $mybody`;
>>>  print `finger $myself at localhost`;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> james
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/7/2009, "Pall Thayer" <pallthay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>....revisited electronically. Those who follow the list closely may see
>>>>immediately that this was inspired in part by James Morris'
>>>>'Microcrudities' a while back. Trying to emulate such human activities
>>>>in short code is really interesting.
>>>>
>>>>http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes/index.php?code_id=29
>>>>
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