[NetBehaviour] string theory

Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Sun Jul 12 06:26:18 CEST 2009



On Sat, 11 Jul 2009, james morris wrote:

>
> Hi Alan,
>
> I assume you're talking about this code (which I reformatted):
>
yes
...
>
> i could post some limited instructions yes, there's also documentation
> for each function in the liberroneous include file (erroneous.h), and
> some examples will be included in the distribution...
>
> but i've got to release the bugger yet!

do keep us informed! the math thing (above) yields unexpected results, at 
least for me and I'm interested in where you're taking this. the main 
thing here of course is the function itself; it would be great if there 
were a way to enter the function on a command line, instead of modifying 
the text at each instance.

also, is there an easy way to have the function apply to individual 
letters instead of words?

thanks for the exchange (which is mainly me learning!) - Alan

>
> james.
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2009, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi - I hate to sound moronic, but when you've finished this, could you
>> post it with easy instructions, so we could all use it? The one program I
>> liked, that Jim Reith did, was the one with the mathematics function built
>> in (as I mentioned, you can rewrite the function to do any number of
>> things) - the result was always surprising. I thought of it in the same
>> way you might have written a mathematical filter in gimp for visual
>> images, something like that. But gimp paves the way; it was harder in
>> text.
>>
>> Thanks greatly! - Alan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, www-data wrote:
>>
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>>> Sometimes I like the subject line to be slightly misleading and perhaps
>>> make the content sound more cleverer than it is. plus one section of it
>>> loosely brought to mind atoms and stuff.
>>>
>>> BTW, the liberroneous is coming along nicely and i've kludged together
>>> some autotools stuff and now liberroneous is built and installed as a
>>> genuine library that can be linked against ( gcc myprog.c -lerroneous -o
>>> myprog ). recent investigations have revealed there were already in
>>> existence in the standard C library functions performing the function of
>>> some of the functions i've created in liberroneous. nevermind, mine are
>>> more sensibly named. anyway, the motion thing - this is a library which
>>> does stuff to ascii text and so how it's used is down to the developer
>>> using it - motion was certainly something i realised during creation the
>>> output i posted as 'string theory'. the section quoting Pall's
>>> message regarding art/language unfortunately got mangled by the webmail
>>> system when it sent. find proper version attached. i thought the motion
>>> thing here: the stripes could move horizontally. anything. code is not
>>> ready yet for release. investigations into things like:
>>>
>>> char* getpointerwithinastringsomehow(const char* str)
>>>
>>> where the return value is of type 'char*' and is a pointer within the
>>> string 'str' which is of type 'const char*' so warnings about
>>> conversion upon returning the ptr are emitted and look untidy and non
>>> professional so am gonna download and try getting my head round the
>>> standard C lib and looking into the implementations of the string
>>> functions (those in string.h) to see how they do it - if it's at all
>>> readable and not drowned in conditional compiles and macros and other
>>> weird stuff i know nothing about.
>>>
>>> yes theres aalib - an ascii art library, but liberroneous i trying to
>>> gear more toward being a library for text manipulation much like some of
>>> the scripts you use do.
>>>
>>> james
>>>
>>> On 10/7/2009, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why string theory and not string transformations? Just curious.
>>>> One thing comes to mind - if you page fast down, you get motion - there
>>>> are people who have made ascii films that way - and I think even Guy
>>>> Debord's situationist film was treated that way - Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, james morris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...desrever neeb sah gnirts sihT
>>>>>
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>>>>> \
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>>>>> grad\
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>>>>>   \
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>>>>> \nse to \     \attempt\     \ a text\     \ural re\
>>>>> \present\
>>>>> \ation o\     \f somet\     \hing ba\     \sed on \     \a
>>>>> textu\
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>>>>> was\
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>>>>> impr\
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>>>>> no o
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>>>>> \l lang
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>>>>> \n ups
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>>>>> \ si
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>>>>> \ed
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>>>>>   \
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>>>>>   \
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>>>>> o\
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>>>>> a\
>>>>> \rt is a\     \lways e\     \litist \     \because\     \ the
>>>>> ac\
>>>>>  \t of cr\     \eating \     \somethi\     \ng as a\     \rt
>>>>> sugg\
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>>>>> \ersion"\
>>>>>    \ has so\     \me tran\     \scenden\     \tal qua\
>>>>> \lity to\
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>>>>> \mas Kin
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>>>>> \es pai
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>>>>> \ast,
>>>>> fe\     \els tha\     \t the r\     \esult o\     \f his b\
>>>>> \rush
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>>>>> \ual
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>>>>>  \ro
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>>>>>  \
>>>>> to cou\     \nt as a\     \ type o\     \f eliti\     \sm.
>>>>>
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>>>>> )(3)###############(2)####(1)(3)###############(2)####
>>>>>
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