marc.garrett at furtherfield.org
Thu Feb 11 19:41:33 CET 2010
I have probably said most of the stuff relevant to your comments, on
another post, earlier on.
But, one individual ruling over others does not necessarily equate to a
quality decision. That the ICA's problems are more an example of a wider
issue, that 'values' are what's needed at present, and how we work with
each other comes into the mix. It all seems rather old school and
patriarchal to me, but others may think differently...
Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow and your friends, didn't I meet
you attend the open Disassembly Event at HTTP?
wishing you well.
s_home at canada.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Well, what an amazing discussion.
> Can you feel it?
> The ground is shaking and shifting underneath us as we all speak.
> I must admit, it does feel like there is a big shift going on and it
is related with how people view art these days, using networks and not
only the usual gateways once provided to find out about art.
> May be there is a new breed of specialist now, and media art (or
whatever you call it) offers a different way of understanding
contemporary art which was not so known or appreciated before. Very
> I have only been on this list since the DIWO project, and I have
certainly learnt much more already than at college or at normal art
galleries since joining.
> My friends, who study art and design who are my age mid-twenties have
been going to smaller galleries like HTTP and Spacemedia much much more
these days. It's strange, actually, hard for me to explain but I will
try without getting too caught up. For me and my friends, the bigger
institutions just do not offer us anything that feels as urgent or as
authentic. The meaning is so different. Don't want anyone to get me
wrong - it's just the way it is. The ideas are more exciting, the work
is more relevant to our lives, more connected. And yes, I have seen this
word used already on here, it feels more REAL.
> I wish I could say more but I've got student things to do, but some
of my chums are subscribed on the list - lurking. I would love to hear
from other students also. What do they make of all this? So far we have
only heard from those deeply involved in art and culture. It would be
great to know what student like myself think about it all.
> Also - furtherfield crew at HTTP Gallery! I'm coming tomorrow to see
Annie's show. I would like to meet and have a drink with yourself others
from this list if any of you are there, I'll be wearing a large crimson
coat and a black baseball cap. Not sure what trousers, you guess.
> We don't need another hero!
> all the best,
>> ------- Original Message Follows -------
>> From: "james morris" <james at jwm-art.net>
>> To: <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
>> Subject: Re:
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:26:31 +0000 (GMT)
>> On 11/2/2010, "Rob Myers" <rob at robmyers.org> wrote:
>>> The ICA have asserted that JJ [who I once had lunch with with a
>>> the ICA bar of all places] was "unsubstantiated and subjective" in his
>>> criticism. Mute have responded. See the comments at the bottom of
>>> containing the article -
>>> (Via @MuteMagazine on Twitter, who you really should be following,
>>> with @Furtherfield , until they all move to identi.ca ;-) )
>> I don't use twitter on identi.ca - whatever...
>> I just looked through your identeets (or whatever identi.ca users call
>> them) and the link:
>> seems to tell a very similar/parallel story about Ubuntu as to the ICA,
>> don't you think?
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