[NetBehaviour] Crisis at the ICA: Ekow Eshun's Experiment in Deinstitutionalisation

martin mitchell martinmitch21 at mac.com
Thu Feb 11 23:56:57 CET 2010


Tony,

Find all this interestingly humorous ............ Karens remark was a quote by Kathy Acker.

Initially wondered tongue in cheek which country was Kathy Acker referring to.......!


>>>>>> "One of the reasons I think the ultra right-wing has such power in this country is that no one talks out."
>>>>>> Kathy Acker. ______________________________________________

Martin.

On 11 Feb 2010, at 22:16, Antonio Dias wrote:

> matin,
> 
> That's all correct.  My comments were in response to my perception of an oversimplification in your "suggestion…" to Karen.
> 
> The "ownership" we deal with here, "somewhere on the ethernet," is a fragile space where there is a modicum of freedom tempered by the broad yet shallow reach voices like any of ours have here in comparison with what passes for public discourse.  This is the dynamic we struggle within.  
> 
> I can't  think of a better place to be, or I'd be there instead!
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> Antonio Dias:
> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
> 
> Horizons of Significance: 
> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
> 
> Fine Lines
> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:56 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
> 
>> Tony.
>> 
>> Control, prejudice, ignorance and ideology are often used to 'control free speech', one of the restricting tools used is idea 'ownership' which can take on many slippery meanings like money, power and copyright, this email conversation structure has ownership but who might be defined as the owner is somewhere in the ethernet....................
>> 
>> Martin.
>> 
>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:28, Antonio Dias wrote:
>> 
>>> Martin,
>>> 
>>> it's not my presumption that keeps you from being heard, but the "ownership" of "free speech."
>>> 
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonio Dias:
>>> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> Horizons of Significance: 
>>> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
>>> 
>>> Fine Lines
>>> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:18 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But ........ nobody owns my spoken words only your presumption.
>>>> 
>>>> Martin.
>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:12, Antonio Dias wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Martin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Outside of places like this list free speech equals money.  That's what the Right has.  Owning speech, what a thought!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Antonio Dias:
>>>>> http://antoniodiasadw.wordpress.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Horizons of Significance: 
>>>>> http://horizonsofsignificance.wordpress.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fine Lines
>>>>> http://finelinesamatterofdistinction.wordpress.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:07 PM, martin mitchell wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Suggest............. maybe you are looking in the wrong places.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Martin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 18:52, karen blissett wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "One of the reasons I think the ultra right-wing has such power in this country is that no one talks out."
>>>>>>> Kathy Acker. _______________________________________________
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