[NetBehaviour] There's No Business Like War Business <long>
geert at nznl.com
Fri Apr 1 08:13:34 CEST 2011
Actually the point Pall brought up is exactly my sentiment -- in spite of what I might have to say (or look up and say) about violence, the military industry and such, I feel that in the end something has to be done. Of course this something might also be done for any number of parts of the world where similar situations exist -- true. There are other interests involved, yes, undoubtedly. Once the leader is outed, fighting will ensue among the victors, yes, probably. Lots of bad stuff will happen. It's wrong to do nothing, it's wrong to go in and fight -- bright ideas, anyone?
4/2011, at 3:17 AM, Joel Weishaus wrote:
> PALL, PLEASE DON'T BREAK MY FINGERS, I NEED THEM FOR TYPING!
> I'D TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW, BUT I SWEAR I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
> I WAS MILES AWAY WHEN IT HAPPENED. I HAVE WITNESSES!
> THE BARTENDER WILL REMEMEBER ME, BECAUSE I DON'T DRINK.
> THE WAITRESS WILL REMEMBER ME, BECAUSE I DON'T EAT.
> THE WOMAN I WAS WITH WILL REMEMBER ME, BECAUSE I STARED AT HER ALL EVENING WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING TO SAY.
> I REMEMBER THAT OBAMA WAS TALKING ON THE TV, SOMETHING ABOUT ANOTHER WAR. IS THAT NINE OR TEN?
> NO ONE PAID ATTENTION, AND SOON SOMEONE TURNED ON A BALLGAME.
> BUT OBAMA WAS THERE TOO, IN SHORTS AND SHOOTING HOOPS!
> THEN EVERYBODY WALKED OUT, INCLUDING THE BARTENDER AND WAITRESS. THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pall Thayer
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity ; Joel Weishaus
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] There's No Business Like War Business <long>
> That doesn't answer my question. What do you feel would have been the right thing to do?
> On Mar 31, 2011 7:23 PM, "Joel Weishaus" <weishaus at pdx.edu> wrote:
> > Pall;
> > It's really not important for any of us to speculate on what should have been done, as it changes nothing.
> > What's important, it seems to me, is to see clearly, not military strategy but who's behind it, and who's to benefit from it.
> > Do you think our political leaders care the Libyan People on the same day they're cutting aid to the poor of their own country?
> > It's about power, and (mostly) men with deep inferiority complexes who display their feathers in deadly ways.
> > -Joel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pall Thayer
> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] There's No Business Like War Business <long>
> > I am extremely opposed to military intervention. But, all of you who have added to this thread, please tell me what you think should have been done. How should this have been handled?
> > On Mar 31, 2011 3:27 PM, "Rob Myers" <rob at robmyers.org> wrote:
> > > On 03/31/2011 08:10 PM, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> > >> If the USA, Britain, France&c had been serious about the
> > >> emancipation of the Libyan people they would have immediately&
> > >> selectively lifted the arms embargo to supply the rebels free of
> > >> charge or at preferentialrates with the weaponry needed to finish the job.
> > >
> > > http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/16441
> > >
> > > "On Wednesday, government officials revealed to Reuters that President
> > > Barack Obama has signed a secret order that authorizes covert U.S.
> > > government support for rebel forces in Libya seeking to oust their
> > > country's leader, Moammar Khadafy.
> > >
> > > According to four government sources familiar with the matter, Obama
> > > signed the order within the last two or three weeks"
> > >
> > > As will be pointed out in the future, Libya is a sovereign state that
> > > the West is intervening in.
> > >
> > > - Rob.
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