[NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women.

Lucia lucysombra at gmail.com
Fri Aug 3 16:28:56 CEST 2012


thank you so much cym! is really nice to read this history
l.




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> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:37:44 +0200
> From: Cym Net <cymnet at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women.
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> Hello Netbehaviour List
>
>
> I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the first
> time I post here.
>
> Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have
> noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have forwarded it
> to me.
>
> And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the video
> here!
>
>
> The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original
> DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that time
> to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no external
> hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file. All I have is
> a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the VHS into the computer
> to be able to put the video online. It is still in low resolution, but at
> least it is online now for all of you to see and enjoy.
>
> The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special
> project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a professional net
> artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense that I am still not able
> to make a living from it, but the 42-Video brought me a huge step further
> into at least trying to one day making a living from media art... )
>
> We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam, Berlin,
> Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still very new and
> streaming video was still something of the future. We connected together
> via IRC, so we could communicate together, and were sending each other
> sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the sounds that we received from
> each other and were sending sounds back to each other. Somewhat like an
> online jam session. On each location we filmed the women on that location
> participating in the project. We later used the video material from these
> four different locations to make one video out of it.
>
> Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that time, so
> instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations inspired by the
> sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was sending these
> animations back to the others as part of the online jam session. The
> clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons made from old 5.25
> inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and not used any more in
> 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the locations in the week before
> the jam session. So we are wearing similar outfits in each location.
>
> We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and filming
> everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to Ljubljana, to
> create a five-minutes video from the material that we had recorded during
> the jam-sessions.
>
> Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real life. I
> met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and Borut for the
> first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged to meet there, to
> mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued by train to Ljubljana,
> which was a pretty long journey. I think the 42-Video was the first time
> for me that I created an art work over the internet, with people whom I had
> never met before in real life (which was a very special experience for me
> at that time!).
>
> Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many people
> understood the video that we had made... I was very excited about the
> project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at least not in my
> surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the video that we had
> produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were more excited :-)
>
> One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a festival
> called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a group of cyber
> women, working together via the internet. I came to Graz for a period of 6
> weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought at that time that I would
> still be there 10 years later :-)
>
> Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my website:
>
> http://cym.net/42/index.php    -   A website designed in good old
> ascii-art
> :-)
>
>
> Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video!
>
> Cym
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net - 00 31 6 23 76 43 95
>
> 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now: www.cym.net/oscar-in-china
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM, ruth catlow
> <ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>wrote:
>
> >  I never heard of 42.
> > I think I remember cym but can't remember where from.
> > This video is fantastic - nerve racking
> >
> > Does anyone else know mailinglist 42?
> >
> > best
> > Ruth
> >
> >
> > On 30/07/2012 15:00, Annie Abrahams wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Marc
> >
> > Do you know who were concerned, who participated, and if there was a
> > folluw up?
> >
> > yours
> > Annie
> >
> > ps I hope you are spending nice holidays
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, marc <marc.garrett at furtherfield.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> net art video from 1998 by cyber women.
> >>
> >> Video made by the women art group mailinglist 42 in 1998.
> >>
> >> The audio and video material for this video was created on four
> >> locations simultanously connected together via real audio and irc during
> >> two evenings in October 1998.
> >>
> >> The artists met each other for the first time in real life one month
> >> later, when they all came to Ljubljana, Slovenia, to edit the material
> >> into this music video.
> >>
> >> "The sound of planets colliding on dark nights in distant galaxies."
> >>
> >> Recorded in Amsterdam, Berlin, Graz and Ljubljana.
> >>
> >> Edited at Ljudmila, Ljubljana in November 1998.
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BlxcG_zmc#
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> From: Perry Bard <perrybard at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women.
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> Great to read this history!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Cym Net <cymnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Netbehaviour List
> >
> >
> > I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the
> first time I post here.
> >
> > Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have
> noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have forwarded it
> to me.
> >
> > And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the
> video here!
> >
> >
> > The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original
> DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that time
> to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no external
> hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file. All I have is
> a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the VHS into the computer
> to be able to put the video online. It is still in low resolution, but at
> least it is online now for all of you to see and enjoy.
> >
> > The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special
> project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a professional net
> artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense that I am still not able
> to make a living from it, but the 42-Video brought me a huge step further
> into at least trying to one day making a living from media art... )
> >
> > We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam, Berlin,
> Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still very new and
> streaming video was still something of the future. We connected together
> via IRC, so we could communicate together, and were sending each other
> sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the sounds that we received from
> each other and were sending sounds back to each other. Somewhat like an
> online jam session. On each location we filmed the women on that location
> participating in the project. We later used the video material from these
> four different locations to make one video out of it.
> >
> > Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that time,
> so instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations inspired by the
> sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was sending these
> animations back to the others as part of the online jam session. The
> clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons made from old 5.25
> inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and not used any more in
> 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the locations in the week before
> the jam session. So we are wearing similar outfits in each location.
> >
> > We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and filming
> everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to Ljubljana, to
> create a five-minutes video from the material that we had recorded during
> the jam-sessions.
> >
> > Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real life.
> I met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and Borut for
> the first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged to meet there,
> to mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued by train to
> Ljubljana, which was a pretty long journey. I think the 42-Video was the
> first time for me that I created an art work over the internet, with people
> whom I had never met before in real life (which was a very special
> experience for me at that time!).
> >
> > Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many people
> understood the video that we had made... I was very excited about the
> project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at least not in my
> surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the video that we had
> produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were more excited :-)
> >
> > One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a
> festival called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a group of
> cyber women, working together via the internet. I came to Graz for a period
> of 6 weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought at that time that I would
> still be there 10 years later :-)
> >
> > Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my website:
> >
> > http://cym.net/42/index.php    -   A website designed in good old
> ascii-art :-)
> >
> >
> > Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video!
> >
> > Cym
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net - 00 31 6 23 76 43 95
> >
> > 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now:
> www.cym.net/oscar-in-china
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM, ruth catlow <
> ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org> wrote:
> > I never heard of 42.
> > I think I remember cym but can't remember where from.
> > This video is fantastic - nerve racking
> >
> > Does anyone else know mailinglist 42?
> >
> > best
> > Ruth
> >
> >
> > On 30/07/2012 15:00, Annie Abrahams wrote:
> >> Thanks Marc
> >>
> >> Do you know who were concerned, who participated, and if there was a
> folluw up?
> >>
> >> yours
> >> Annie
> >>
> >> ps I hope you are spending nice holidays
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, marc <marc.garrett at furtherfield.org>
> wrote:
> >> net art video from 1998 by cyber women.
> >>
> >> Video made by the women art group mailinglist 42 in 1998.
> >>
> >> The audio and video material for this video was created on four
> >> locations simultanously connected together via real audio and irc during
> >> two evenings in October 1998.
> >>
> >> The artists met each other for the first time in real life one month
> >> later, when they all came to Ljubljana, Slovenia, to edit the material
> >> into this music video.
> >>
> >> "The sound of planets colliding on dark nights in distant galaxies."
> >>
> >> Recorded in Amsterdam, Berlin, Graz and Ljubljana.
> >>
> >> Edited at Ljudmila, Ljubljana in November 1998.
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BlxcG_zmc#
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NetBehaviour mailing list
> >> NetBehaviour at netbehaviour.org
> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NetBehaviour mailing list
> >> NetBehaviour at netbehaviour.org
> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
> >
> >
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> > NetBehaviour at netbehaviour.org
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> http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane3.jpg
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> Thank you West Jet
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> Subject: [NetBehaviour] MANIK ALIVE 54
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> From: helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women.
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> yes, thanks for that, cym. great project :)
>
> On 2/08/12 4:14 PM, Perry Bard wrote:
> > Great to read this history!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Cym Net <cymnet at gmail.com
> > <mailto:cymnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Netbehaviour List
> >>
> >>
> >> I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the
> >> first time I post here.
> >>
> >> Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have
> >> noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have
> >> forwarded it to me.
> >>
> >> And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the
> >> video here!
> >>
> >>
> >> The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original
> >> DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that
> >> time to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no
> >> external hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file.
> >> All I have is a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the
> >> VHS into the computer to be able to put the video online. It is still
> >> in low resolution, but at least it is online now for all of you to
> >> see and enjoy.
> >>
> >> The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special
> >> project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a
> >> professional net artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense
> >> that I am still not able to make a living from it, but the 42-Video
> >> brought me a huge step further into at least trying to one day making
> >> a living from media art... )
> >>
> >> We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam,
> >> Berlin, Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still
> >> very new and streaming video was still something of the future. We
> >> connected together via IRC, so we could communicate together, and
> >> were sending each other sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the
> >> sounds that we received from each other and were sending sounds back
> >> to each other. Somewhat like an online jam session. On each location
> >> we filmed the women on that location participating in the project. We
> >> later used the video material from these four different locations to
> >> make one video out of it.
> >>
> >> Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that
> >> time, so instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations
> >> inspired by the sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was
> >> sending these animations back to the others as part of the online jam
> >> session. The clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons
> >> made from old 5.25 inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and
> >> not used any more in 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the
> >> locations in the week before the jam session. So we are wearing
> >> similar outfits in each location.
> >>
> >> We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and
> >> filming everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to
> >> Ljubljana, to create a five-minutes video from the material that we
> >> had recorded during the jam-sessions.
> >>
> >> Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real
> >> life. I met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and
> >> Borut for the first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged
> >> to meet there, to mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued
> >> by train to Ljubljana, which was a pretty long journey. I think the
> >> 42-Video was the first time for me that I created an art work over
> >> the internet, with people whom I had never met before in real life
> >> (which was a very special experience for me at that time!).
> >>
> >> Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many
> >> people understood the video that we had made... I was very excited
> >> about the project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at
> >> least not in my surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the
> >> video that we had produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were
> >> more excited :-)
> >>
> >> One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a
> >> festival called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a
> >> group of cyber women, working together via the internet. I came to
> >> Graz for a period of 6 weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought
> >> at that time that I would still be there 10 years later :-)
> >>
> >> Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my
> >> website:
> >>
> >> http://cym.net/42/index.php -   A website designed in good old
> >> ascii-art :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video!
> >>
> >> Cym
> >>
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________________________
> >> CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net <http://www.cym.net/> - 00
> >> 31 6 23 76 43 95
> >>
> >> 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now:
> >> www.cym.net/oscar-in-china <http://www.cym.net/oscar-in-china>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________________
>
> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst
> helen at creative-catalyst.com
> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
> http://www.make-shift.net
> http://www.upstage.org.nz
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