[NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed "offensive!" by Transmediale Director

[dave miller]

thanks helen that's really kind of you

d:}

On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson
<helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
> i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to respond. :)
>
>
> On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote:
>>
>> i'd love to know more
>>
>> d :)
>>
>> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson
>> <helen at creative-catalyst.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked
>>> tamiko&  she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds
>>>
>>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general
>>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken
>>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand how
>>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform
>>> offensive.
>>>
>>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ...
>>>
>>> h : )
>>>
>>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the
>>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working,
>>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my
>>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But
>>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko
>>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this
>>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting.
>>>>
>>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about this!
>>>>
>>>> dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thought this was an interesting development.  Tamiko Thiel is one of
>>>>> the
>>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical
>>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly
>>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant?
>>>>>
>>>>> bests
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>> Please forward to interested parties:
>>>>>
>>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art
>>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented
>>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open
>>>>> conversation."
>>>>>
>>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource
>>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to talk
>>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR Occupy
>>>>> Wall Street project.
>>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - literally
>>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen,
>>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and proclaimed
>>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible with
>>>>> the existing order and systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, but
>>>>> fear today's interventionist art?
>>>>>
>>>>> Videomakers Unite!
>>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
>>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media collectives
>>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look back
>>>>> at
>>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates this
>>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the fields of
>>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Tamiko Thiel
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>   Tamiko Thiel
>>>>>   Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM
>>>>>   (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media)
>>>>>   Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration
>>>>>   http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
>>>>>
>>>>>   Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit
>>>>>   http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html
>>>>>
>>>>>   Email:   tamiko at alum.mit.edu
>>>>>   Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
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