[NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed "offensive!" by Transmediale Director
dave miller
dave.miller.uk at gmail.com
Sat Feb 4 18:00:46 CET 2012
I've put together tons of links (on Delicious) on the subject of
augmented reality - might be of interest:
http://delicious.com/davemilleruk
dave
On 4 February 2012 15:41, Mark Hancock <mark.r.hancock at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd love to find out more as well, if we can?
>
> I do love a good open and uncensored public debate about the arts. As long as it falls within my own aesthetic and cultural paradigms without me having to open up to the possibility that there are new and emerging art forms that I might not like.
>
> Hey, maybe I should apply to run Transmediale next year?
>
> Love,
>
> Mark
>
> On 4 Feb 2012, at 15:29, dave miller wrote:
>
>> thanks helen that's really kind of you
>>
>> d:}
>>
>> On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson
>> <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
>>> i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to respond. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i'd love to know more
>>>>
>>>> d :)
>>>>
>>>> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson
>>>> <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked
>>>>> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds
>>>>>
>>>>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general
>>>>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken
>>>>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand how
>>>>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform
>>>>> offensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ...
>>>>>
>>>>> h : )
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the
>>>>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working,
>>>>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my
>>>>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But
>>>>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko
>>>>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this
>>>>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical
>>>>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly
>>>>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bests
>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please forward to interested parties:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art
>>>>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented
>>>>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open
>>>>>>> conversation."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource
>>>>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to talk
>>>>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR Occupy
>>>>>>> Wall Street project.
>>>>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - literally
>>>>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen,
>>>>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and proclaimed
>>>>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible with
>>>>>>> the existing order and systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, but
>>>>>>> fear today's interventionist art?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Videomakers Unite!
>>>>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
>>>>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media collectives
>>>>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look back
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates this
>>>>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the fields of
>>>>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Tamiko Thiel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tamiko Thiel
>>>>>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM
>>>>>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media)
>>>>>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration
>>>>>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit
>>>>>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: tamiko at alum.mit.edu
>>>>>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
>>>>>>>
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