[NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed "offensive!" by Transmediale Director
mez breeze
netwurker at gmail.com
Sat Feb 4 22:18:04 CET 2012
i'm also keen to find out more about Gansig's reasoning for his offensive
stance?
+ i've been running a blog at augmentology.com for years [2008] that has
both articles + links regarding AR [Augmented Reality].
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:00 AM, dave miller <dave.miller.uk at gmail.com>wrote:
> I've put together tons of links (on Delicious) on the subject of
> augmented reality - might be of interest:
> http://delicious.com/davemilleruk
>
> dave
>
> On 4 February 2012 15:41, Mark Hancock <mark.r.hancock at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd love to find out more as well, if we can?
> >
> > I do love a good open and uncensored public debate about the arts. As
> long as it falls within my own aesthetic and cultural paradigms without me
> having to open up to the possibility that there are new and emerging art
> forms that I might not like.
> >
> > Hey, maybe I should apply to run Transmediale next year?
> >
> > Love,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 4 Feb 2012, at 15:29, dave miller wrote:
> >
> >> thanks helen that's really kind of you
> >>
> >> d:}
> >>
> >> On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson
> >> <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
> >>> i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to
> respond. :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i'd love to know more
> >>>>
> >>>> d :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson
> >>>> <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked
> >>>>> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds
> >>>>>
> >>>>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general
> >>>>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be
> taken
> >>>>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand
> how
> >>>>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform
> >>>>> offensive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> h : )
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the
> >>>>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it
> working,
> >>>>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my
> >>>>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But
> >>>>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko
> >>>>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this
> >>>>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about
> this!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one
> of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and
> critical
> >>>>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a
> particularly
> >>>>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have
> meant?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> bests
> >>>>>>> Ruth
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please forward to interested parties:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important
> media art
> >>>>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored
> augmented
> >>>>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open
> >>>>>>> conversation."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource
> >>>>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to
> talk
> >>>>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR
> Occupy
> >>>>>>> Wall Street project.
> >>>>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience -
> literally
> >>>>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen,
> >>>>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and
> proclaimed
> >>>>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible
> with
> >>>>>>> the existing order and systems.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art,
> but
> >>>>>>> fear today's interventionist art?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Videomakers Unite!
> >>>>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
> >>>>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media
> collectives
> >>>>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look
> back
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates
> this
> >>>>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the
> fields of
> >>>>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Tamiko Thiel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Tamiko Thiel
> >>>>>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM
> >>>>>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media)
> >>>>>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration
> >>>>>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit
> >>>>>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Email: tamiko at alum.mit.edu
> >>>>>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
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