[NetBehaviour] An interview with Katrina Sluis, Digital Curator at the Photographers’ Gallery.

bob catchpole bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jul 16 14:33:27 CEST 2012 

Marc,

Thanks for responding in such a positive way. Katrina is clearly very knowledgeable. I look forward to understanding her!

Interviews are often accessible because they're more in the nature of a  conversation. The interview you've done would probably be excellent in an academic journal. But I think for the furtherfield and netbehaviour audience there's just too much alienating gobbledygook.

Marc, not many would have responded in the way that you have, and for that you're to be admired :-)

Bob





>________________________________
> From: marc <marc.garrett at furtherfield.org>
>To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org> 
>Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012, 13:01
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Katrina Sluis, Digital Curator at the Photographers’ Gallery.
> 
>Hi Bob,
>
>I have considered what you said.
>
>I do not agree with all what you say, but because I am interested in 
>challenging myself, and taking your suggestions as positive rather than 
>on face value - I will have another interview with Katrina Sluis and 
>will re-ask and unpack some of the dialogue that you say is, too obscure.
>
>Thanks for the heads up :-)
>
>wishing you well.
>
>marc
>
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> I found your interview with Katrina Sluis disturbing, disappointing 
>and massively contradictory. It seems she's very concerned to emphasise 
>her 'inclusive' position yet uses highly exclusive language to express 
>this. Why? Why communicate in a pretentious way that leaves the vast 
>majority of people in the dark? Is she unaware how alienating she is 
>being? Particularly to a 'participatory' audience?
>>
>> What was particularly disappointing was that you let her get away 
>with it.
>>
>> When she says: "The research approach has been adopted precisely to 
>avoid the trap of binary nominalism, and to problematise the tendency to 
>shoe horn internet practices into the language of cultural studies and 
>aesthetics" maybe a bit of demystification is called for?
>>
>> When she says: "By focusing on the gif the show does problematise the 
>distinction between artist and audience, in which participation, 
>openness and the ‘crafting’ of the image becomes key" maybe ask how this 
>differs from painting or sculpture?
>>
>> When she says: "Whilst the project shares the concerns of net art by 
>raising questions concerning authenticity, authorship and ‘the social’, 
>it is also motivated by the need to rethink familiar notions of 
>photography and temporality, indexicality and the economy of the image" 
>maybe a bit of clarification could be helpful?
>>
>> And when she says: "I think there are many interesting opportunities 
>which emerge from this intersection of the institutional frame of the 
>museum (with its associated issues of cultural and curatorial authority 
>and the legacy of aesthetic modernism) and the values and politics which 
>inform certain kinds of networked arts practice" maybe ask, "That sounds 
>interesting but what the fuck does it mean?"
>>
>> Unsurprisingly I found your question easy to understand. But given 
>your self-professed alienated educational background, I was surprised at 
>your 'complicity' with the text as it stands.
>>
>> My overriding reaction was "Why do people in that position talk that 
>kind of bollocks? For power? Control?" I thought the interview was a 
>wasted opportunity. It would be interesting if it could be 'translated' 
>into a language folks like me could understand.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>     From: info <info at furtherfield.org>
>>     To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
><netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
>>     Sent: Friday, 13 July 2012, 12:55
>>     Subject: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Katrina Sluis, Digital 
>Curator at the Photographers’ Gallery.
>>
>>     Marc Garrett interviews Katrina Sluis, the new curator of the Digital
>>     Programme at The Photographers' Gallery, London.
>>
>>     We discuss about the gallery's recent show 'Born in 1987: The 
>Animated
>>     GIF', and what kind of exhibitions and projects to expect from the
>>     gallery in the Future.
>>
>>    
>http://www.furtherfield.org/features/interviews/interview-katrina-sluis-digital-curator-photographers-gallery
>>
>>     "Why look at animated GIFs now? They are one of the first forms 
>of image
>>     native to computer networks making them charmingly passé, a
>>     characteristic that gives them contradictory longevity. Animated GIFs
>>     crystallise a form of the combination of computing and the camera. As
>>     photography moves almost entirely into digital modes, the fascination
>>     with such quirky formats increases. The story of photography will 
>be, in
>>     no small part, that of its file formats, the kinds of compression and
>>     storage it undergoes, as they in turn produce what is conjurable 
>as an
>>     image." Matthew Fuller.
>>
>>     Katrina Sluis is an artist, curator and academic based in London 
>where
>>     she teaches digital media at London South Bank University. She was
>>     recently appointed the first Curator (Digital Programme) at the
>>     Photographers’ Gallery, London. Her writing has been published in
>>     journals including Photographies, Philosophy of Photography and
>>     ArteEast. Her research is concerned with materiality, archiving and
>>     transmission in relation to the photographic image and she is 
>currently
>>     working on a chapter for the (forthcoming) second edition of Martin
>>     Lister's The Photographic Image in Digital Culture.
>>
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