[NetBehaviour] New Article/Review - Data-Driven Artists And Their Critics

Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Fri Nov 22 03:37:38 CET 2013

To the extent that physical objects are inherently frail, this need not 
follow; art is also a discursive formation, and conceptual art, for 
example, remains with/in its documentation. The same is likely to occur 
with online art which paradoxically may be preserved in online and offline 
physical catalogs. I think of paintings and, say, ceramic works, as 
produced by the body of the artist in way that doesn't occur for online 
works. So then, within the artschool and other institutions the body is 
oddly important and preserved itself in the works. Think of a Giacometti 
for example - one imagines the hands of the artists pressed into the work 
in an ikonic way -

May be contradicting myself here - Alan

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Pall Thayer wrote:

> I agree that the physicality of art is necessary. Not necessarily for its
> physical properties (depends on the media) but rather for its conservation,
> its continued affect on future generations of art. Art that has no physical
> property, be it through the work itself or documentation, will most likely
> be forgotten. No matter how important it was in its time. The physicality of
> code based art lies in the code. It is the only embodiment of such pieces
> that can potentially live beyond the technology they were created for.
> Pall
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
>       For me the physicality of much of the artworld is good and
>       necessary; it
>       reminds us we're flesh and blood, however prosthetic, that the
>       world is
>       physical and fragile and so much is close to extinction. It
>       creates
>       situations of face to face sociality which otherwise might not
>       exist. When
>       I've taught at art-schools I always looked towards the painters
>       and
>       ceramicists - not for the 'art' necessarily, but for their
>       immersion in
>       the substance of the planet, which seemed at times eerily more
>       real than
>       the hyperbolism of the media players, including myself. I'm
>       tired of this
>       ignoring of flesh and blood, the rare earths in our goodies that
>       are
>       killing people on other continents, the violent and virtual
>       umbrella of
>       structures like Google, Apple, Facebook, etc., as if our world
>       was
>       constituted by benign ghosts whose greatest sin might be spying
>       on us for
>       commercial gain.
>       End of rant -
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