[NetBehaviour] Why Microsoft Word (and Adobe, HP, Google, Intel)) must Die

James Morris jwm.art.net at gmail.com
Wed Oct 30 17:59:17 CET 2013


Hi Eduardo,

I didn't respond because I am not knowledgeable about these things. What
Rob says seems about right to me, I have absolutely nothing to add, and I
don't think he's being as cynical and unserious about it as you acuse him
of being.

I used to respond post more frequently on the list but so many times it can
feel like emails go unread.. It's easy to assume they land straight in the
spam/trash because of saying the wrong thing/attitude/etc too many times.
But maybe its true, who knows!?!? :-)

James.


On 30 October 2013 16:05, Eduardo Valle <dudavalle at hotmail.com> wrote:

> James, thank you very much for not even tried to answer... Chutney is good
> as Curry too
> Sometimes confirmation is necessary ...
> At least after one week the post  from Firefox was available ...
> And this one also after one week retention ...
>
> The questions are still around ...
>
>
>
> Do You think a British Citizen Will accept a country without a aerospatial
> program, i mean to very clear to You, Brasil is one of
> the  countries  without even a sattelite ... And remember G8 or G7 or G20
> there are more than 200 countries in the World ...
>
> IPV6 is provisional Yes or no ???? , If there is an exponential  grow of
> the net there Will be no space, because i hope also that You as a
> specialist knows that the Internet is a space with a limited or FINITE
> space ...
>
> ARE THE SPECIALISTS  AVOIDING THAT SUBJECT ABOUT THE FINITUDE ????
>
> Are the specialists AVOIDING in saying Who is going to Control each
> knowledge domain ???
>
> WHO ARE THEY ??? NAMES , AGAIN NAMES , TELL WHO IS WHO in that new Control.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:40:37 +0000
> From: jwm.art.net at gmail.com
>
> To: netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Why Microsoft Word (and Adobe, HP, Google,
> Intel)) must Die
>
>
>
>
> On 30 October 2013 00:32, Eduardo Valle <dudavalle at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try to avoid despair ...
>
> You didnt understand or You are again being CYNIC ? I hope not ... As I
> hope that too from the others Members of the list ... But it is prove ...
> As Far as i know everybody was work to do ...
>
>
> Sounds like good advice to me: try to avoid despair. Worth taking that
> kind of advice, because in this day and age (as well as many other days and
> ages), despair is always lurking round the corner ready to rear its ugly
> turtle head.
>
>
>
> Do You think a British Citizen Will accept a country without a aerospatial
> program, i mean to very clear to You, Brasil is one of
> the  countries  without even a sattelite ... And remember G8 or G7 or G20
> there are more than 200 countries in the World ...
>
> IPV6 is provisional Yes or no ???? , If there is an exponential  grow of
> the net there Will be no space, because i hope also that You as a
> specialist knows that the Internet is a space with a limited  space ...
>
> ARE THE SPECIALISTS  AVOIDING THAT SUBJECT ABOUT THE LIMITS ????
>
> Are the specialists AVOIDING in saying Who is going to Control each
> knowledge domain ???
>
> WHO ARE THEY ??? NAMES , AGAIN NAMES , TELL WHO IS WHO in that new Control.
>
> Is the interview with Firefox CENSORED by the list , because it was in
> portuguese or because it was questioning the so called Open and free
> praticsed by The Google Imperium  ?
>
>
> I got both the emails about it. I used google translate to read it. There
> wasn't anything of which I was unaware or if there was, it was nothing
> which surprised or shocked me. Then I forgot about it. Sorry. Or was I too
> busy at work in a factory and then got home and tried programming or chilli
> chutney making or moving house or something.
>
> James.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Funny the approval of the last message took very long, compared to others
> ... Very funny !
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:02:36 -0700
>
> > From: rob at robmyers.org
> > To: netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org
> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Why Microsoft Word (and Adobe, HP, Google,
> Intel)) must Die
> >
> > On 24/10/13 06:39 PM, Eduardo Valle wrote:
> > > Rob , first let me say you are a very good selector , nice links.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > > But your kind of "funny ironic" answers ... some might say is CYNIC and
> > > we know that some persons fell confortable in that situation ...
> >
> > I try to avoid despair.
> >
> > > And the worst is the silence of the others members of the list, that is
> > > also syntomatic ...
> >
> > I imagine they have other work to do.
> >
> > > 1) Try to say to a British citizen in the 21st century that only 30% of
> > > the population has access to internet ?And that access is very
> expensive
> > > ??? So, be a little more serious on that subject , IT IS AN ABSURD !!
> No
> > > matter if it is "free" or not, because thats another discussion. But
> > > worst is a president that blame the others to appear as a "rebel" ...
> > >
> > > http://www.itu.int/newsroom/press_releases/2003/30.html
> >
> > Breadth and depth are separate issues.
> >
> > I agree that access to the network is important. I was struck by an
> > Indian activist's response I once heard to a British radical's dismissal
> > of the idea of access to the network for (e.g.) subsistence farmers.
> > Information such as weather reports is difficult to access in a timely
> > and efficient manner through other means.
> >
> > So, to be clear, I agree that the network needs to be (re)distributed
> > more evenly as a moral imperative (although we need to be very wary of
> > the consequences of that for surveillance and market overreach).
> >
> > But the ability to use that access flexibly and efficiently (or
> > "freely") is important if winning that access is not to be a hollow
> victory.
> >
> > > 2) Tell a British citizen that his aerospatial program do not exist ???
> > > Maybe is more easy to be """"free"""" with a aerospatial program like
> > > that ...
> >
> > I'm sorry, I don't understand this point.
> >
> > > 3) Tell a British citizen that the Internet is his country is dominated
> > > by an ICANN filliated that is a foundation of an ex dictator ?
> >
> > British citizens are very used to dictators being embraced by their
> > leadership, and for the most part I would imagine they still regard the
> > details of the DNS system as arcane and irrelevant to their everyday
> life.
> >
> > > 4) I am being very objective again, WHO WILL DETAIN THE DOMAIN CONTROL
> > > AND WHY ON IPV 6 ??? Nobody in the list knows that ? Who are deciding
> > > that in each field ?
> >
> > I assume it's still ICANN, with all the problems and possibilities and
> > alternatives that entails.
> >
> > > 5) F(r) ee , try to think on a philosophical level, on a consumer
> > > level, on an technological level ... and we are not even talking about
> > > FINAZISM ...
> >
> > As I say, I try to avoid despair.
> >
> > > 6) IPV6 is a provisory solution , what is being thought in that sense
> ???
> >
> > I wasn't aware that IPv6 is provisional. It's taking long enough to
> > adopt it, so I don't know what would come next. I love meshnets, but
> > then I loved them in 2005. Some of the smarter people I know are moving
> > to Retroshare, but that's still over IP.
> >
> > > 6) If ICANN servers will move, will move to where ?????
> >
> > It's hard to decide whether this is network politics or geopolitics, or
> > an interesting blend of the two. In any case, you are right that it is a
> > point that should be of more political interest than it seems to be.
> >
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