[NetBehaviour] Please help me with Wikipedia!!

Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Mon May 26 06:10:00 CEST 2014


Hi Pall -

Seriously, what the hell is going on? Who deleted you? Went to Wik. and 
couldn't find much information. You're an inspiration to a lot of us - 
this is bad even if just a joke. -

- Alan


On Mon, 26 May 2014, Pall Thayer wrote:

> The intended recipient of this message has been deleted.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
> 
>
>       Yes and no; I've read too many articles that read as
>       self-written and are overblown. I feel I'm capable of doing that
>       myself unfortunately -
>
>       On Sun, 25 May 2014, Randall Packer wrote:
>
>       I am perplexed by this: since when are Wikipedia
>       artist-bios written by the
> artist a vanity press? I consider writing one?s own bio on
> Wikipedia not
> only critical to making sure the information is accurate, but it
> is actually
> empowering for the artist to take control of this platform to
> communicate
> precisely who they are. Too often artists are at the mercy of
> curators,
> editors, and dealers, etc., who think they know the true meaning
> and spirit
> of an artist?s work and identity. In Wikipedia, the artist can
> say (almost)
> exactly what needs to be said and how to say it. Not that
> Wikipedia doesn?t
> have rules: it is crucial to cite references, including links to
> other
> relevant Wikipedia articles, etc. A solution that I chose, was
> to
> appropriate the biography of another artist, and use it as a
> structural
> framework. But from the point on, I keep up my Wikipedia
> biography as I
> would a carefully tended garden. 
> 
> If an artist can?t maintain their own bio on Wikipedia, then the
> Web is
> dead. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Packer
> 
> 
> 
> From: ruth catlow <ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>
> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2014 at 8:11 AM
> To: <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Please help me with Wikipedia!!
> 
> Hiya,
> me too
> : )
> R
> 
> 
> On 25/05/2014 11:30, dave miller wrote:
> 
>       Hi helen and alan
>       Good idea and would be happy to do this.
>       Dave
> 
>       On 25 May 2014 10:59, "helen varley jamieson"
>       <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
>             hi alan,
>             probably many of us are in a similar position.
>             someone has created a page about me on wikipedia as
>             well, as a student project in 2012. it's not bad, i
>             did a few little minor corrections myself & it looks
>             like 7 others have made minor contributions as well.
>             but i don't expect that the original writer will
>             maintain it, & already some things are out of date.
>             i don't want to maintain it either (nor are we
>             supposed to do our own pages).
> 
>             maybe we should have a netbehaviourists wikipedia
>             sprint some time during the northern hemisphere
>             summer? have an irc chat & work together to update
>             each others' entries over a couple of evenings?
> 
>             h : )
> 
>             On 22/05/14 7:57 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> 
> 
>       Please help me with Wikipedia!!
> 
>       There's a stub article on me in Wikipedia. I've
>       asked a couple
>       of friends to expand it, but no luck. The problem is
>       that we're
>       all unemployed here and it would help to have
>       something more
>       substantial. I'm throwing this open at this point;
>       perhaps one
>       or more of the people reading this would make some
>       changes? It
>       would be greatly appreciated; I'm tired of working
>       under the
>       radar so to speak, and need employment (which is
>       admittedly
>       another story). I could change the entry myself, but
>       that's not
>       only frowned upon; it also reflects a vanity press
>       approach to
>       the world and I'd rather not go there for ethical
>       reasons.
>       Anyway if you have the time, please do make changes,
>       enter
>       something, turn the stub into an article, and I'd be
>       literally
>       eternally grateful, at least until I die (which
>       precludes
>       eternity, so I'm thinking along the lines of a
>       sliding scale).
>       Thanks, Alan
> 
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