[NetBehaviour] dismal news

ruth catlow ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org
Sat Aug 29 12:35:34 CEST 2015

Thank you Ana and Michael for your testimonies and observations.

I just saw this 
about action on the ground in response to the refugees.

We desperately need political solutions AND it's very valuable to have 
evidence of the many different ways that people find to act in dignity 
and in straightforward solidarity with each other.


On 28/08/15 18:07, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> Absolutely - I  don't think it's a male female thing though. Racist 
> scapegoating is a very convenient way of distracting people and 
> dividing them.
> I hope it's clear, Ana, that my first e mail meant exactly what it 
> said - we should open the borders -there is enough money to wage 
> imperialist wars, enough money for obscene bonuses for bankers, so 
> there is enough money to feed, clothe house , educate and keep healthy 
> both established inhabitants and newcomers...
> cheers
> michael
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Michael Szpakowski <szpako at yahoo.com>; NetBehaviour for 
> networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2015 5:44 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news
> I has been a refugee for many years. I spent four years in jail for 
> political reasons (was member of a gerilla group, Tupamaros) and was 
> deported to Sweden in 1978. The Swedes paid me one year study of the 
> language and gave me an apt to rent. After one year I was on my own, 
> got a job as a teacher and started a publisher house with some 
> friends. I became a writer and an anthropologist, paid my taxes and 
> never more needed any support.
> Four years ago I moved back to Uruguay, tired and disapointed seeing a 
> xenophobe party rise. Today this party is the most popular party among 
> men. Their discourse is very similar to Trump's discourse in the US. 
> And he is popular among men. Why? Is that because the men are in 
> control in the most countries in the world (Angela Merkel is an 
> exception) and feel themselves treated by all those hundreds of 
> thousands refugees fleeing Syria, Afganistan and Africa?
> The colonization of the whole world by Europeans has shaped the modern 
> world, at the beginning of the 20th century the whole Africa was owned 
> by Germany, England, France, Spain and Belgium. The slaves, stolen 
> from Africa since the 16th century, built the wealth of Europa, 
> Latinamerica and the US. Africa was emptied of resources and ppl for 
> several generations and centuries. Why is so difficult to understand 
> they want their fair share of the wealth and welfare their ancestors 
> paid with sweat and blood?
> James Petras, a respected scholar, wrote about the Imperial Wars, 
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-age-of-imperial-wars/5470957
> thats the imperial wars which are making the planet an unsure place to 
> live for the most of us.
> Another important article was written by my friend the Serbian writer 
> Jasmina Tesanovic, married with Bruce Sterling,
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jasmina-tesanovic/we-are-all-refugees_b_8015152.html
> I am the grandchild of European Spaniards and Italians fleeing the 
> poverty in Europe at the end of the 19th century. They were welcomed 
> in North and South America as working craft and fellow human in 
> distress, why should not Europe open the borders now? It's their 
> historic guilt.
> Ana
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Michael Szpakowski <szpako at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:szpako at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>     Yes - the only philosophy we need on this, though, is "open the
>     borders, let them in!"
>     michael
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Kath O'Donnell <aliak77 at gmail.com <mailto:aliak77 at gmail.com>>
>     *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>     <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org
>     <mailto:netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>>
>     *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2015 3:22 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news
>     it's shocking to hear of so many people fleeing Syria and other
>     countries. what kind of world is this where they are turned away.
>     meanwhile in Australia, our borders are shamefully, effectively
>     closed to refugees, our prime minister is now considering
>     supporting US with air strikes in Syria and his 'border force'
>     team are planning on checking everyone's visas in Melbourne CBD on
>     the weekend. it's like they think we're in 1939 Germany or something.
>     I hope something can be done to help the refugees. it seems like a
>     forced population shift is going on atm
>     I haven't read the philosophers' take on it all.
>     http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/aug/23/tony-abbott-to-decide-on-joining-fight-against-islamic-state-after-us-talks
>     http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-28/border-force-to-check-visas-on-the-streets-of-melbourne/6732086
>     On 28 August 2015 at 11:19, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com
>     <mailto:sondheim at panix.com>> wrote:
>         which in a weird way is why I hate theory - sure the whole
>         economy is going towards Franciscan, everyone will wise up, I
>         don't know how this connects to anything but I don't know how
>         Zizek connects to anything, all this theory, people being
>         slaughtered in the meantime -
>         - Alan, if you do get more insight into Agamben please
>         publish, thanks
>         On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Johannes Birringer wrote:
>             dear BishopZ you have not heard of the thousands and
>             millions of refugees and migrants who are flooding into
>             northwest Europe from the middle east, africa, and the
>             balkans (e.g. Kosovo) ? there are more than 1.5. million
>             refugees alone trying to leave Syria and Iraq. Have you
>             heard of refugee camps being attacked by right wing
>             radicals, who fought police in east germany last week, and
>             the turmoil at the camps in Calais?
>             strangely, philosophers are writing their comments, and
>             today V. Agamben published an interview calling for
>             "Europe must collapse" and suggesting a new refuge or exit
>             policy, that he calls 'd?soeuvrement' or 'inoperosit?'
>             (destitution or deactivation of the economy, the law,
>             biology). I have not really a clear idea what that means,
>             but the examples given are the Fransiccan monks and the
>             idea of withdrawal to poverty and automomy in a cloister.
>             I do not know how this connects to the US election
>             campaign, sorry.
>             regards
>             Johannes Birringer
>     [snip]
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