[NetBehaviour] Phantom Limbs

Randall Packer rpacker at zakros.com
Wed Feb 25 18:04:57 CET 2015

Hi Roger,

Thanks for your mention of the Art of the Networked Practice symposium.
The irony is that I am trained as a composer and have done considerable
work and writing over the years regarding networked sound practices.
However, there was so much to cover in the symposium and I wanted to keep
the focus on research, teaching, and collaboration, but in fact I am quite
interested in this subject and hopefully next time!

That said, I just wanted to mention that Helen Varley Jamieson is
developing a live performance, which will be performed live via Adobe
Connect as part of the symposium¹s opening. The work is entitled "we r
now[here]," a cyberformance about "nowhere and somewhere," which I believe
will address many relevant ideas concerning dislocation, disembodiment,
and other aspects of virtuality in live networked space (or as I call it,
the third space). 

Best, Randall

Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium
March 31 - April 2, 2015

On 2/24/15, 9:17 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:

>Check out Auditory Neuroscience, Making Sense of Sound, Schnupp, Nelken,
>and King, and Sonic Warfare, Sound, Affect, and The Ecology of Fear, both
>MIT, if you haven't already -
>On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Roger Mills wrote:
>> Hi Patrick, thanks for sharing your ISEA paper and revisiting this
>>topic of
>> embodiment in virtual performance. I remember reading it at the time in
>> 2011, and had hoped I might bump into you there to discuss but we never
>> crossed paths.
>> I completely concur with your synthesis of neurological research into an
>> understanding of virtual perception / cognition, particularly
>> proposition that ?neurons fire in sympathy with the observation of
>> person?s action.?
>> I would argue that this also extends to sound, which is an integral, if
>> greater part of that same mirror through which we perceive and interpret
>> meaning. On this view, sonic characteristics such as timbre, rhythm,
>> articulation in speech, music and other sound metaphorically enable the
>> meaning making process because we know what it is to make those sounds
>> our voice or bodies. It is this idea of experiential metaphor that is
>> elaborated in the work by Mark Johnson and George Lakoff on image
>> experience, which I have previously proposed is useful to understanding
>> perception in networked or virtual environments. It is interesting to
>> that Jonson and Lakoff also reference motor / mirror neuron research to
>> elaborate their embodied cognition thesis.
>> With this in mind, I have often wondered why sound seems to play such a
>> minor role in these deliberations, particularly in staple literature
>>such as
>> Massumi, Ascott et al (please point out if you or anyone feels i have
>> something here). This follows what I also find to be a somewhat
>> anachronistic, yet still pervasive notion of virtual space being
>> objectively as a separate, somehow fluffy academic cosy space
>> between dislocated bodies.
>> In my mind cyberspace, or networked space as I prefer to think of it,
>>is an
>> extension of physical spaces and the embodiment of those spaces by the
>> social actions that occur in them.  This emerged quite strongly in my
>> case study research of networked music performance (NMP), but perhaps it
>> also has something to do with a music or sound focussed medium as
>>opposed to
>> the predominantly visual medium of virtual environments such as SL.
>> Some of these questions might be discussed in the upcoming Art of
>> Practice symposium, although I was hoping, (Randall aside) that there
>> have been a panelist who could speak from a specific NMP practice and
>> research perspective. There are many such as Pauline Oliveros, Mara
>> Ken Fields for example that I think could contribute poignant ideas that
>> relate to many of these issues but IMHO are often overlooked by
>> focussed telematics perspectives.
>> In any event I enjoyed revisiting your paper and its contribution
>>toward the
>> much needed 'epistemic arc' as you describe it !
>> Best wishes
>> Roger
>> ?
>> Roger Mills
>> http://www.eartrumpet.org
>> http://roger.netpraxis.net
>> http://telesound.net
>> "Knowledge is only rumour until it is in the muscle" - Asaro Mudmen,
>> Papua New Guinea.
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