[NetBehaviour] Culture isn't free -

if aha at aharonic.net
Wed Jul 8 20:23:41 CEST 2015


Cheers!

Yes. Perhaps there is a question of cultivation? Might sound slightly  
ironic, however how else can the aesthetics of success be  
characterised when the process is that of refining  ways to measure  
the sense of being successful?

Might be mistaken, however, it seems that the difference between  
getting £0 per month while doing stuff that might be linked to art,  
and not eating much, to doing the same stuff while getting £10000 per  
month and being able to flavour the food - is a translation of the  
activities to measures that produce a binary scale of Yes done well =  
reward & No = zilch reward.

The titanic GorillaPhant in the room is that when we get to art-linked  
wonders, we kind of get into a stream of cultural sewage. Hence,  
without a sort of Joycean sort of fetishisation, its still a bit of a  
need akin to that of checking the toilette works OK from time to time..

Cheer and much £0 fun!!

ahanull(?)
xx


Quoting Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>:
> Love this - on the other hand, know too many people struggling to  
> make ends meet at all, so that music for example becomes a "hobby"  
> or "after-hours" thing. But what do I know? I can't even get a job,  
> and when Azure works a day at substitute teaching, she brings home a  
> whopping $65. It's rough. I used to work with Foofwa d'Imobilite -  
> for a good 20 years on and off - and he won't came back to the U.S.  
> at this point - dancers and choreographers just aren't paid unless  
> they're blue-chip, ballet, whatever. Most people struggling at the  
> bottom - no matter how good they are, how devoted, just stay there,  
> maybe give up. It's bad here. Look, we got maybe 9 rave reviews on  
> the Avatar Woman cd - and sold I think 15 copies in the first couple  
> of months (before most of the reviews) - after that, we've sold 3.  
> Three. In spite of the reviews. People expect their music for free  
> and not all of us are Taylor Swifts who can deal with $$ at the top  
> (last I heard she was worth 65 million). So for us, I told the  
> company to keep the $15; they spent more than that sending the  
> review copies out...
>
> Fucking unbelievable.
>
> - Alan
>
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, if wrote:
>
>>
>> Quoting Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> Not sure the following exactly corresponds with the notion of  
>> comments, however:
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed, with money, since it requires time to deal with, eg  
>> counting the coins balanced on one's forehead, etc. - we lose  
>> either time, or money, both, and gain sensations of  
>> fear-over-freedom?
>>
>> Perhaps a different way to sense these might be:
>>
>> (CI) - as a Counted Intervals sense
>> (UCI) - as a UnCounted Intervals sense
>>
>> (FFNC) - as a Fear From Not Counting sense
>> (FFA) - as a Freedom From Accounting sense
>>
>> (FoF) - as a Fear of Freedom mix Freedom of Fear sense
>>
>> (FF) - as a FearFreedom mix FreedomFear sense
>>
>>
>> <_-_> - as taking time operator
>>
>>> *< - as gaining time operator
>>
>> |-| - as evolutionary entropy operator
>>
>> |\->|| - as evolutionary complexity operator
>>
>> If - as If
>>
>> ? - as a ?
>>
>>
>> Now perhaps there can be these kind of streams:
>>
>>> *< (CI)(FoF) ? If ? (FF)
>>
>> (humm... this one is a bit dead actually.. Because of the (FF) that  
>> contains a mix at the end..
>> Perhaps, might be more interesting if it was:
>>
>>> *< (FF)(FoF) ? If ? (CI)
>>
>> ok..
>>
>> Now, say there is the following stream:
>>
>> (FFA) |-| ? (FF) <_-_> If
>>
>> Perhaps these can begin a wave?
>>
>> eg:
>> If (CI) ? (CI)>*<(FFA) ? If (FF)(FFA) >*< ?
>>
>> Though I wonder how it might be if a stream like the following one  
>> came along:
>>
>>
>> |-| ? |-| (UCI) if <_-_> ?
>>
>> Perhaps this could cover the wave beginning?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yup, Perhaps uncounted and unaccounted for breathing, may be  
>> perceived as an aggressive anti-social activity in a numericalised  
>> world..?
>>
>> Cheers and have much summer fun!
>>
>> ahanone
>> xx x
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> We're losing money with every breath we take. -
>>>
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