[NetBehaviour] Deleuze and Pinterest

[Alan Sondheim]

From: BishopZ <xchicago at gmail.com>

Hi Bishop - I found the pinterest boards fascinating; there seemed to be 
two things at work in them - in the first, bwo, the representations seemed 
to emphasize multiplicities and a certain surplus economics; for me, bwo 
relate more to ISIS/terror, annihilation to the point that what's left is 
a form of problematic and abject substance, which also ties into 
catatonia. The style-a-desire-machine plays into the images of young 
models, again, a surplus, and the style itself doesn't seem deconstructed 
- you know the book, Preliminary Materials for a Theory of the Young-Girl 
- which also seems limited and problematic and on the other hand related 
to the pinterest images. The theory/essay you wrote seems terrific; I have 
to read it again (I'm suffering from a very resistant sickness at the 
moment, apologies), in a couple of days. I do realize I may be missing 
something here -

I can see a _return to logic_ with programming, but the field of logic 
itself has been traditionally messy - fuzzy logics, intuitionist logics, 
Piaget's proposotional logics, etc - to the extent that even in Witt's 
TLP, the logical system based on the sheffer stroke has an enormous amount 
of arbitrariness in it that led to the Logical Investigations, which have 
very little to do w/ traditional logic. So when you have "However, up 
until the last 20 years, logic has been the anchor of written language. 
The hegemony of logic is not that written language is better than other 
mediums of expression, but that logic was the most accurate form of 
rationality. Written language just happened to be better at logic than 
speech." - I don't see it, because I'm not sure what "logic" means in this 
context - the Russell/Whitehead approach proved inadeqate by the early 
decades of the 20th century w/ all those anomalies. I haven't seen logic 
used otherwise, maybe in Quine on quotations, I don't know; in any case 
the Aristotelian stuff was thrown out way earlier. I hope I'm making sense 
here. Now of course one can talk about the logic of a computer program and 
even its surface layers (upper layers of protocol suites where pretty 
much anything and anyone can go), and that gives an insight into what 
might be thought of as a dark scaffolding which is of great interest, that 
might even be able to be related to early universe cosmology, but I'm 
probably wrong here -

thanks! Alan



Alan correctly called me out a few conversations ago - I am an arm
chair Deleuze interpreter.

I am interested in difference between image logic, spoken logic and
written logic. I published an essay about it here:
http://bishopz.com/post/7606423793/language-and-computers

I put together two boards that relate to Deleuze.

One I believe relates to the original concept,
the other I believe to be a conflation of the intent of the original
concept,

Body Without Organs:
https://www.pinterest.com/eduatx/style-body-without-organs/

Desire Machine:
https://www.pinterest.com/eduatx/style-a-desire-machine/

Does anyone have more domain knowledge with this?

Can you tell me, in translating the written work of Deleuze into the
image logic of contemporary society, how are those concepts expressed,
visually, on medium that are commonly used?

Not possible, or is there some image logic to Deleuze? He did write a
book or two on film, after all.

In appreciation,
BishopZ


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