[NetBehaviour] The General Election

helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com
Sun May 10 13:20:59 CEST 2015


yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ...
interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's the case
in nz.

h : )

On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote:
> hi,
>
> yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as paper
> planes, kind of electoral sequences.
>
> the "greens".. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only and ever
> more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not for art &
> culture unless its entertaining..)
>
> Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an environmentally
> romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of moral duty and
> care for the perceived "natural" while looking for ideologically
> inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital. Indeed, if
> the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that
> green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in
> brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory held. Ex
> Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than Labour's voters..
> Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool sounding name
> "kitkat" - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg - spreading tall
> tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands..
>
> ...but am digressing...
>
> I think point re voting and general elections, might be that in fact
> they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic processes
> from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is on going
> regardless of any electoral outcome. No?
>
> Cheers!
>
> xxx
>
> quitter.se/if
>
>
> Quoting helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>:
>
>> does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting system? that means
>> it's always going to be an either-or situation, the lesser of 2 evils.
>> since nz adopted a proportional representation system in 1996, numerous
>> small parties have had representation in parliament & currently the
>> green party is the third largest with just over 10% (equating to 14
>> seats in parliament).
>>
>> the nz system isn't perfect, & we also experienced a similar shock in
>> the election last year when the sitting neoliberals cruised back in
>> (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least we have a growing &
>> viable green party to vote for, with some really good green MPs.
>>
>> h : )
>>
>> On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:
>>> Edward said: "If Labour had said 'We're going to look after the most
>>> vulnerable members of society properly, and if that means putting
>>> taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they still wouldn't have
>>> won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of most press
>>> coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack of charisma as a
>>> leader - but at least we would have had a genuine alternative to vote
>>> for. I voted Green."
>>>
>>> an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media, and an overwhelmingly
>>> unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear coming out of
>>> peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self righteous
>>> [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of prejudices for another.
>>>
>>> i voted green even though i expected if i told anyone i'd be informed
>>> it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered at/looked-down-a-nose-at,
>>> by people in my life. some people say who you vote for isn't meant to
>>> be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the balls to say i
>>> voted green, but have played it safe so far.
>>>
>>> a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you don't want to vote
>>> for to prevent another party you don't want to vote for, imo.
>>>
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