[NetBehaviour] The General Election

helen varley jamieson helen at creative-catalyst.com
Mon May 11 11:10:35 CEST 2015


yes, time for electoral reform in the uk!

On 10/05/15 10:44 45PM, dave miller wrote:
> Greens blame Tory majority on Labour's willingness to "accept the
> narrative of its opponents"
> The Green party's economic spokesperson reflects on Labour and the
> media's pandering to the the Tory narrative.
>
> http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/greens-blame-tory-majority-labours-willingness-accept-narrative-its-opponents
>
> On 10 May 2015 at 19:50, if <aha at aharonic.net
> <mailto:aha at aharonic.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     Quoting helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com
>     <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
>         yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ...
>         interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's
>         the case
>         in nz.
>
>
>     I'd take the view re greens in the uk with a pinch of salt made of
>     the fact they are a rather sizable tent with various shades, that
>     I personally have more views than a political insight, and that
>     the focus was re brighton local greens.
>
>     cheers!
>
>     ahaxxx
>
>
>
>         h : )
>
>         On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote:
>
>             hi,
>
>             yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as
>             paper
>             planes, kind of electoral sequences.
>
>             the "greens".. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only
>             and ever
>             more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not
>             for art &
>             culture unless its entertaining..)
>
>             Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an
>             environmentally
>             romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of
>             moral duty and
>             care for the perceived "natural" while looking for
>             ideologically
>             inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital.
>             Indeed, if
>             the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that
>             green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in
>             brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory
>             held. Ex
>             Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than
>             Labour's voters..
>             Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool
>             sounding name
>             "kitkat" - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg -
>             spreading tall
>             tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands..
>
>             ...but am digressing...
>
>             I think point re voting and general elections, might be
>             that in fact
>             they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic
>             processes
>             from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is
>             on going
>             regardless of any electoral outcome. No?
>
>             Cheers!
>
>             xxx
>
>             quitter.se/if <http://quitter.se/if>
>
>
>             Quoting helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com
>             <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
>                 does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting
>                 system? that means
>                 it's always going to be an either-or situation, the
>                 lesser of 2 evils.
>                 since nz adopted a proportional representation system
>                 in 1996, numerous
>                 small parties have had representation in parliament &
>                 currently the
>                 green party is the third largest with just over 10%
>                 (equating to 14
>                 seats in parliament).
>
>                 the nz system isn't perfect, & we also experienced a
>                 similar shock in
>                 the election last year when the sitting neoliberals
>                 cruised back in
>                 (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least
>                 we have a growing &
>                 viable green party to vote for, with some really good
>                 green MPs.
>
>                 h : )
>
>                 On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:
>
>                     Edward said: "If Labour had said 'We're going to
>                     look after the most
>                     vulnerable members of society properly, and if
>                     that means putting
>                     taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they
>                     still wouldn't have
>                     won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of
>                     most press
>                     coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack
>                     of charisma as a
>                     leader - but at least we would have had a genuine
>                     alternative to vote
>                     for. I voted Green."
>
>                     an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media,
>                     and an overwhelmingly
>                     unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear
>                     coming out of
>                     peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self
>                     righteous
>                     [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of
>                     prejudices for another.
>
>                     i voted green even though i expected if i told
>                     anyone i'd be informed
>                     it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered
>                     at/looked-down-a-nose-at,
>                     by people in my life. some people say who you vote
>                     for isn't meant to
>                     be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the
>                     balls to say i
>                     voted green, but have played it safe so far.
>
>                     a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you
>                     don't want to vote
>                     for to prevent another party you don't want to
>                     vote for, imo.
>
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