[NetBehaviour] The General Election
helen varley jamieson
helen at creative-catalyst.com
Mon May 11 11:10:35 CEST 2015
yes, time for electoral reform in the uk!
On 10/05/15 10:44 45PM, dave miller wrote:
> Greens blame Tory majority on Labour's willingness to "accept the
> narrative of its opponents"
> The Green party's economic spokesperson reflects on Labour and the
> media's pandering to the the Tory narrative.
>
> http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/greens-blame-tory-majority-labours-willingness-accept-narrative-its-opponents
>
> On 10 May 2015 at 19:50, if <aha at aharonic.net
> <mailto:aha at aharonic.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Quoting helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com
> <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
> yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ...
> interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's
> the case
> in nz.
>
>
> I'd take the view re greens in the uk with a pinch of salt made of
> the fact they are a rather sizable tent with various shades, that
> I personally have more views than a political insight, and that
> the focus was re brighton local greens.
>
> cheers!
>
> ahaxxx
>
>
>
> h : )
>
> On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as
> paper
> planes, kind of electoral sequences.
>
> the "greens".. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only
> and ever
> more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not
> for art &
> culture unless its entertaining..)
>
> Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an
> environmentally
> romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of
> moral duty and
> care for the perceived "natural" while looking for
> ideologically
> inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital.
> Indeed, if
> the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that
> green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in
> brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory
> held. Ex
> Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than
> Labour's voters..
> Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool
> sounding name
> "kitkat" - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg -
> spreading tall
> tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands..
>
> ...but am digressing...
>
> I think point re voting and general elections, might be
> that in fact
> they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic
> processes
> from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is
> on going
> regardless of any electoral outcome. No?
>
> Cheers!
>
> xxx
>
> quitter.se/if <http://quitter.se/if>
>
>
> Quoting helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com
> <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
> does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting
> system? that means
> it's always going to be an either-or situation, the
> lesser of 2 evils.
> since nz adopted a proportional representation system
> in 1996, numerous
> small parties have had representation in parliament &
> currently the
> green party is the third largest with just over 10%
> (equating to 14
> seats in parliament).
>
> the nz system isn't perfect, & we also experienced a
> similar shock in
> the election last year when the sitting neoliberals
> cruised back in
> (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least
> we have a growing &
> viable green party to vote for, with some really good
> green MPs.
>
> h : )
>
> On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote:
>
> Edward said: "If Labour had said 'We're going to
> look after the most
> vulnerable members of society properly, and if
> that means putting
> taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they
> still wouldn't have
> won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of
> most press
> coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack
> of charisma as a
> leader - but at least we would have had a genuine
> alternative to vote
> for. I voted Green."
>
> an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media,
> and an overwhelmingly
> unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear
> coming out of
> peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self
> righteous
> [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of
> prejudices for another.
>
> i voted green even though i expected if i told
> anyone i'd be informed
> it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered
> at/looked-down-a-nose-at,
> by people in my life. some people say who you vote
> for isn't meant to
> be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the
> balls to say i
> voted green, but have played it safe so far.
>
> a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you
> don't want to vote
> for to prevent another party you don't want to
> vote for, imo.
>
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