[NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach

Ana Valdés agora158 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 15 05:25:50 CET 2015

The encounter starts today check www.womeninblack.org
Den 15 nov 2015 08:06 skrev "AGF poemproducer" <agf at poemproducer.com>:

> Ana, this sounds so very good!
> happy to read this! do u have a link, more info?
> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:06, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Johannes and all it feels almost eery and weird read your message in
> the lobby of Dubai airport on my way to Bangalore in India where I am going
> to participate in a gathering of Women in Black an international network of
> women committed to peace and dialogue and against all kind of war and
> occupation.
> We denounced the invasion of Irak, Libia and Irak as illegal as much we
> denounced Saddam Husseins annexion of Kuwait and the war between Iran and
> Irak. We are going to be around 100 women from Cynthia Cocknurn old timer
> activist in Greenham Common and professor in peace and conflict to Rebecca
> Jonsson one of the most outspoken critics of Natos expansion.
> We are going to have Israeli women fighting the occupation and Palestine
> fighting their own male models we are going to have Armenian women
> protesting the war in Nagorno Karabaj and Tjetenien mothers of soldiers.
> From Colombia and Mexico and Argentina we are going to connect with women
> searching their missing relatives mostly courtesy of the US supported right
> wing militia.
> Cheers
> Ana
> Den 13 nov 2015 18:21 skrev "Johannes Birringer" <
> Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk>:
>> Some of you probably remember that last winter Alan Sondheim and I
>> moderated an online discussion on ISIS and terror & performance,
>> (empyre list), and some of it may have spilled over here or you were of
>> course aware of the worsening of the situation in Syria and Iraq.
>> The discussion, I think, also of course also hit closer to home when we
>> ponder what terror means to us, or how we think it and what our
>> histories and political affiliations or stands are, or have been.
>> I remember after the debate last November, Alan and I tried to find a
>> publisher to see whether the raw, emotional, intense yet diversely
>> positioned and often poetic articulations of the participants
>> could be published, but we had no luck. Earlier this year I tried to
>> write again about terror, ISIS, masks,  and also confront what may be my
>> own phantasms or prejudices towards militant Islam and also towards
>> Western states and their necropolitics, and I grappled  to understand a
>> little bit better what state formation might mean for those fighting on the
>> ground in the middle east.
>> Driving on the motorway today, listening to BBC2, i was baffled when a
>> fundraiser for "Children in Need" was interrupted by the DJ who brought
>> news from US killing, by drone, of presumably
>> one of the men on the videos released by ISIS, the presumed "Jihadi
>> John"; the person assumed to be this man pulverized by the drone rocket
>> (including all those in the car). Strangely, I then had to listen
>> to the british prime minister praising the US commando strike and also
>> saying - referring to the Islamic State as an “evil terrorist death cult" –
>> that "Mr Emwazi is a barbaric murderer. This "will be a strike at the heart
>> of ISIL,
>> and it will demonstrate to those who would do Britain, our people and our
>> allies harm we have a long reach, we have unwavering determination and we
>> never forget about our citizens.”
>> After returning to Children in Need, then the radio host comes back with
>> a brief interview with a fellow worker and friend of one of the kidnapped
>> victims of ISIS, who argued that he would have prefered the british
>> government to help when they could've sought to press for the hostage's
>> release, as other countries had done; that the prime minister's hypocrisy
>> is repulsive, and that he also would "have prefered Mr Emwazi to have been
>> brought to justice."
>> I was relieved to hear a worker bring up this idea of justice, and the
>> political processes of negotiations that may precede drone strikes. In any
>> case, I was feeling sick when all this surfaced on the radio. I wonder how
>> this
>> played out in the US or in the Middle East, in Raqqa, or other towns in
>> the region. (A commentator on the radio, and there always are 'experts' to
>> be found quickly, it seems, claimed to be a professor at the "Institute of
>> Radicalization
>> &  Political Violence," Kings College, and thought the strike was great,
>> and the drones are wonderful as their permanent presence over the heads of
>> peoples there instills fear)
>> Johannes
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