[NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach

Ana Valdés agora158 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 16 19:19:34 CET 2015

Today we had a long hearing with women from Iraq Afghanistan Palestine
India Sri Lanka Armenia and many other countries. Congo was specially
strong since we are all a bit complice in their wars they are the world
first provider of coltan and tantalum minerals needed to make drones and
computers and mobile phones.
Two English women Sue Finch and Liz Khan, members of women in black UK and
active against NATO delivered a powerful speech about NATO selling itself
as the saviour of the civilized world.
Write more tomorrow nice to share with you
They had very powerful statements about rape as wartool displaced ppl in
Den 16 nov 2015 17:18 skrev "helen varley jamieson" <
helen at creative-catalyst.com>:

> ana, if you have time it would be great to hear how the women in black
> encounter goes. great that you are able to attend :)
> On 15/11/15 5:25 50AM, Ana Valdés wrote:
> The encounter starts today check www.womeninblack.org
> Den 15 nov 2015 08:06 skrev "AGF poemproducer" <agf at poemproducer.com>:
>> Ana, this sounds so very good!
>> happy to read this! do u have a link, more info?
>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:06, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Johannes and all it feels almost eery and weird read your message in
>> the lobby of Dubai airport on my way to Bangalore in India where I am going
>> to participate in a gathering of Women in Black an international network of
>> women committed to peace and dialogue and against all kind of war and
>> occupation.
>> We denounced the invasion of Irak, Libia and Irak as illegal as much we
>> denounced Saddam Husseins annexion of Kuwait and the war between Iran and
>> Irak. We are going to be around 100 women from Cynthia Cocknurn old timer
>> activist in Greenham Common and professor in peace and conflict to Rebecca
>> Jonsson one of the most outspoken critics of Natos expansion.
>> We are going to have Israeli women fighting the occupation and Palestine
>> fighting their own male models we are going to have Armenian women
>> protesting the war in Nagorno Karabaj and Tjetenien mothers of soldiers.
>> >From Colombia and Mexico and Argentina we are going to connect with
>> women searching their missing relatives mostly courtesy of the US supported
>> right wing militia.
>> Cheers
>> Ana
>> Den 13 nov 2015 18:21 skrev "Johannes Birringer" <
>> Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk>:
>>> Some of you probably remember that last winter Alan Sondheim and I
>>> moderated an online discussion on ISIS and terror & performance,
>>> (empyre list), and some of it may have spilled over here or you were of
>>> course aware of the worsening of the situation in Syria and Iraq.
>>> The discussion, I think, also of course also hit closer to home when we
>>> ponder what terror means to us, or how we think it and what our
>>> histories and political affiliations or stands are, or have been.
>>> I remember after the debate last November, Alan and I tried to find a
>>> publisher to see whether the raw, emotional, intense yet diversely
>>> positioned and often poetic articulations of the participants
>>> could be published, but we had no luck. Earlier this year I tried to
>>> write again about terror, ISIS, masks,  and also confront what may be my
>>> own phantasms or prejudices towards militant Islam and also towards
>>> Western states and their necropolitics, and I grappled  to understand a
>>> little bit better what state formation might mean for those fighting on the
>>> ground in the middle east.
>>> Driving on the motorway today, listening to BBC2, i was baffled when a
>>> fundraiser for "Children in Need" was interrupted by the DJ who brought
>>> news from US killing, by drone, of presumably
>>> one of the men on the videos released by ISIS, the presumed "Jihadi
>>> John"; the person assumed to be this man pulverized by the drone rocket
>>> (including all those in the car). Strangely, I then had to listen
>>> to the british prime minister praising the US commando strike and also
>>> saying - referring to the Islamic State as an “evil terrorist death cult" –
>>> that "Mr Emwazi is a barbaric murderer. This "will be a strike at the heart
>>> of ISIL,
>>> and it will demonstrate to those who would do Britain, our people and
>>> our allies harm we have a long reach, we have unwavering determination and
>>> we never forget about our citizens.”
>>> After returning to Children in Need, then the radio host comes back with
>>> a brief interview with a fellow worker and friend of one of the kidnapped
>>> victims of ISIS, who argued that he would have prefered the british
>>> government to help when they could've sought to press for the hostage's
>>> release, as other countries had done; that the prime minister's hypocrisy
>>> is repulsive, and that he also would "have prefered Mr Emwazi to have been
>>> brought to justice."
>>> I was relieved to hear a worker bring up this idea of justice, and the
>>> political processes of negotiations that may precede drone strikes. In any
>>> case, I was feeling sick when all this surfaced on the radio. I wonder how
>>> this
>>> played out in the US or in the Middle East, in Raqqa, or other towns in
>>> the region. (A commentator on the radio, and there always are 'experts' to
>>> be found quickly, it seems, claimed to be a professor at the "Institute of
>>> Radicalization
>>> &  Political Violence," Kings College, and thought the strike was great,
>>> and the drones are wonderful as their permanent presence over the heads of
>>> peoples there instills fear)
>>> Johannes
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