[NetBehaviour] bodies of evidence, and the long reach
helen varley jamieson
helen at creative-catalyst.com
Tue Nov 17 23:17:11 CET 2015
that's the one! i think the teatowel was produced by CND (can't find
that on the web tho ... )
On 17/11/15 1:45 59PM, dave miller wrote:
> I agree - brilliant quote - I think this is it:
>
> http://izquotes.com/quote/66959
>
> On 17 November 2015 at 12:40, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com
> <mailto:agora158 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Haha such a great motto! A friend I have said once looking at one
> derelict school:
> "We are the first civilization in the world who keep our money in
> palaces and our children in shacks".
> Ana
>
> Skickat från min iPhone
>
> 17 nov 2015 kl. 18:04 skrev helen varley jamieson
> <helen at creative-catalyst.com <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>
>> yes it is completely twisted; if half that amount was invested in
>> things that actually helped people have better lives, instead of
>> killing them, it would make such a big positive difference.
>>
>> my grandmother had a teatowel on her wall (from the 1970s) that
>> read something like "it will be a great day when schools have all
>> the money they need and the air force has a cake stall to raise
>> money for a new plane" ... sadly that day is still a long long
>> way off :(
>>
>> On 17/11/15 12:32 57PM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>>> I don't believe that sadly (a lack of resources of course) but I
>>> am going to write some texts in English Swedish and Spanish the
>>> languages I know.
>>> Btw it's funny because something we discussed yesterday was the
>>> horrible expansion of NATO and the pledge of all alliance
>>> members to earmark two pro cent of the countries budget for
>>> military expenses 7 trillion dollars going to drones to
>>> satellite surveillance to borders control to fences to weapons.
>>> Only the joint manoeuvres NATO countries did recently at the
>>> Mediterranean costed 400 million dollars.
>>> Imagine that money invested in civilian infrastructure in Africa
>>> or India in schools food or training for young ppl.
>>> Something who struck me today when I was writing about this
>>> meeting was the double standards we have to judge things: how
>>> many ppl has been killed randomly by drones attendants to
>>> weddings in Yemen and Pakistan recently the hospital where
>>> Medecins sans frontieres was working etc etcetera
>>> But we mourn the Paris victims killed as randomly...
>>> I guess that's the wrecked logic of ISIS they kill us as
>>> collateral damage we kill them as randomly...
>>> Ana
>>>
>>> Skickat från min iPhone
>>>
>>> 17 nov 2015 kl. 15:07 skrev Gretta Louw
>>> <gretta.elise.louw at gmail.com <mailto:gretta.elise.louw at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for the update Ana, sounds like such an
>>>> important event. Is there going to be any video documentation
>>>> of the meeting released, do you know? Or other written
>>>> documentation?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 19:19, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:agora158 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Today we had a long hearing with women from Iraq Afghanistan
>>>>> Palestine India Sri Lanka Armenia and many other countries.
>>>>> Congo was specially strong since we are all a bit complice in
>>>>> their wars they are the world first provider of coltan and
>>>>> tantalum minerals needed to make drones and computers and
>>>>> mobile phones.
>>>>> Two English women Sue Finch and Liz Khan, members of women in
>>>>> black UK and active against NATO delivered a powerful speech
>>>>> about NATO selling itself as the saviour of the civilized world.
>>>>> Write more tomorrow nice to share with you
>>>>> Ana
>>>>> They had very powerful statements about rape as wartool
>>>>> displaced ppl in millions
>>>>>
>>>>> Den 16 nov 2015 17:18 skrev "helen varley jamieson"
>>>>> <helen at creative-catalyst.com
>>>>> <mailto:helen at creative-catalyst.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> ana, if you have time it would be great to hear how the
>>>>> women in black encounter goes. great that you are able to
>>>>> attend :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/11/15 5:25 50AM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The encounter starts today check www.womeninblack.org
>>>>>> <http://www.womeninblack.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 15 nov 2015 08:06 skrev "AGF poemproducer"
>>>>>> <agf at poemproducer.com <mailto:agf at poemproducer.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ana, this sounds so very good!
>>>>>> happy to read this! do u have a link, more info?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:06, Ana Valdés
>>>>>>> <agora158 at gmail.com <mailto:agora158 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Johannes and all it feels almost eery and weird
>>>>>>> read your message in the lobby of Dubai airport on
>>>>>>> my way to Bangalore in India where I am going to
>>>>>>> participate in a gathering of Women in Black an
>>>>>>> international network of women committed to peace
>>>>>>> and dialogue and against all kind of war and
>>>>>>> occupation.
>>>>>>> We denounced the invasion of Irak, Libia and Irak as
>>>>>>> illegal as much we denounced Saddam Husseins
>>>>>>> annexion of Kuwait and the war between Iran and
>>>>>>> Irak. We are going to be around 100 women from
>>>>>>> Cynthia Cocknurn old timer activist in Greenham
>>>>>>> Common and professor in peace and conflict to
>>>>>>> Rebecca Jonsson one of the most outspoken critics of
>>>>>>> Natos expansion.
>>>>>>> We are going to have Israeli women fighting the
>>>>>>> occupation and Palestine fighting their own male
>>>>>>> models we are going to have Armenian women
>>>>>>> protesting the war in Nagorno Karabaj and Tjetenien
>>>>>>> mothers of soldiers.
>>>>>>> >From Colombia and Mexico and Argentina we are going
>>>>>>> to connect with women searching their missing
>>>>>>> relatives mostly courtesy of the US supported right
>>>>>>> wing militia.
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Ana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den 13 nov 2015 18:21 skrev "Johannes Birringer"
>>>>>>> <Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some of you probably remember that last winter
>>>>>>> Alan Sondheim and I moderated an online
>>>>>>> discussion on ISIS and terror & performance,
>>>>>>> (empyre list), and some of it may have spilled
>>>>>>> over here or you were of course aware of the
>>>>>>> worsening of the situation in Syria and Iraq.
>>>>>>> The discussion, I think, also of course also hit
>>>>>>> closer to home when we ponder what terror means
>>>>>>> to us, or how we think it and what our
>>>>>>> histories and political affiliations or stands
>>>>>>> are, or have been.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember after the debate last November, Alan
>>>>>>> and I tried to find a publisher to see whether
>>>>>>> the raw, emotional, intense yet diversely
>>>>>>> positioned and often poetic articulations of the
>>>>>>> participants
>>>>>>> could be published, but we had no luck. Earlier
>>>>>>> this year I tried to write again about terror,
>>>>>>> ISIS, masks, and also confront what may be my
>>>>>>> own phantasms or prejudices towards militant
>>>>>>> Islam and also towards
>>>>>>> Western states and their necropolitics, and I
>>>>>>> grappled to understand a little bit better what
>>>>>>> state formation might mean for those fighting on
>>>>>>> the ground in the middle east.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Driving on the motorway today, listening to
>>>>>>> BBC2, i was baffled when a fundraiser for
>>>>>>> "Children in Need" was interrupted by the DJ who
>>>>>>> brought news from US killing, by drone, of
>>>>>>> presumably
>>>>>>> one of the men on the videos released by ISIS,
>>>>>>> the presumed "Jihadi John"; the person assumed
>>>>>>> to be this man pulverized by the drone rocket
>>>>>>> (including all those in the car). Strangely, I
>>>>>>> then had to listen
>>>>>>> to the british prime minister praising the US
>>>>>>> commando strike and also saying - referring to
>>>>>>> the Islamic State as an “evil terrorist death
>>>>>>> cult" – that "Mr Emwazi is a barbaric murderer.
>>>>>>> This "will be a strike at the heart of ISIL,
>>>>>>> and it will demonstrate to those who would do
>>>>>>> Britain, our people and our allies harm we have
>>>>>>> a long reach, we have unwavering determination
>>>>>>> and we never forget about our citizens.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After returning to Children in Need, then the
>>>>>>> radio host comes back with a brief interview
>>>>>>> with a fellow worker and friend of one of the
>>>>>>> kidnapped victims of ISIS, who argued that he
>>>>>>> would have prefered the british
>>>>>>> government to help when they could've sought to
>>>>>>> press for the hostage's release, as other
>>>>>>> countries had done; that the prime minister's
>>>>>>> hypocrisy is repulsive, and that he also would
>>>>>>> "have prefered Mr Emwazi to have been brought to
>>>>>>> justice."
>>>>>>> I was relieved to hear a worker bring up this
>>>>>>> idea of justice, and the political processes of
>>>>>>> negotiations that may precede drone strikes. In
>>>>>>> any case, I was feeling sick when all this
>>>>>>> surfaced on the radio. I wonder how this
>>>>>>> played out in the US or in the Middle East, in
>>>>>>> Raqqa, or other towns in the region. (A
>>>>>>> commentator on the radio, and there always are
>>>>>>> 'experts' to be found quickly, it seems, claimed
>>>>>>> to be a professor at the "Institute of
>>>>>>> Radicalization
>>>>>>> & Political Violence," Kings College, and
>>>>>>> thought the strike was great, and the drones are
>>>>>>> wonderful as their permanent presence over the
>>>>>>> heads of peoples there instills fear)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Johannes
>>>>>>>
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