[NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink
ruth catlow
ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org
Fri Oct 2 14:27:53 CEST 2015
You are probably best placed to answer that question Patrick.
How could that work?
On 02/10/15 13:14, Patrick Lichty wrote:
> One of many points today -
> I wonder if this conversation could be extended here to the UAE, where
> there is a great deal of cultural activity (but it is still a ‘small’town)
>
> From: ruth catlow <ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org
> <mailto:ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org>>
> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org <mailto:netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>>
> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 10:04 PM
> To: <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org <mailto:netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink
>
> Thanks Annie and Randall,
>
> for offers to host and for your ideas and reflections.
>
> The idea of asking a gallery visitor to join a discussion on
> Netbehaviour is provoking!
>
> I look forward to hearing more from you Annie: )
>
> Randall,I'd also like to comment on something you wrote in an earlier
> mail :
> "it’s not clear to me that he is aware of the many museums in the US
> and the around the world that are employing social media and what is
> called “user-generated content” in all sorts of compelling ways that
> invite engagement and social change. "
>
> I think that what is under discussion here is digital art or media art
> that prompts a more critical reflection about digital tools and
> technology- and considers how they influence and change mass
> behaviours and society and power etc. I think this goes beyond
> 'engagement'. This is not to dismiss the work that you describe- just
> to distinguish.
>
> Ruth
>
>
>
>
> On 01/10/15 13:42, Randall Packer wrote:
>> Ruth, that’s the first time I have heard you articulate the
>> high-importance of the relationship and intersection between the
>> physical Furtherfield venues with the virtual networked spaces of the
>> list, etc. This cross-pollination between the local and the remote
>> seems to always be the great challenge of networked projects and
>> their communities, but also one of the most interesting. The question
>> and solutions you raise are compelling: to create a dialogue across
>> this divide, creating third space social engagement between the two.
>> How do to this with a text-based email list is an even greater
>> challenge, so I think having those who are on the ground in the park,
>> or at least actively involved in what is happening there, should be
>> hosting conversations on the list: reportage from the Furtherfield
>> gallery. I wonder also if it is possible for visitors in the gallery
>> to participate here, though that seems more appropriate for social
>> media. When we created multiple channels for NetArtizens, that
>> presented a good distribution solution, especially when there was
>> cross-referencing between Twitter and NetBehaviour. Personally, I
>> think it is interesting to think about all the various channels we
>> use as a wholistic activity, because in a sense, they all seem to
>> blend together with a lot of the same participants, for example
>> Marc’s Facebook postings with this list. You bring up some crucial
>> networked issues in terms of engaging virtual communities, the key
>> question being how to bridge those virtual communities with physical
>> social spaces.
>>
>> From: <netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org
>> <mailto:netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org>> on behalf of ruth catlow
>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 5:21 AM
>> To: <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org
>> <mailto:netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>>, <bram.org at gmail.com
>> <mailto:bram.org at gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink
>>
>> Dear Annie,
>>
>> You have thrown the cat amongst the pigeons of my mind!
>>
>> Of course!
>>
>> All the time I think - what makes Furtherfield/Netbehaviour
>> super-special is this link between what happens in the experiments
>> and conversations between us all here on the list, and in the
>> physical places in the Furtherfield park venues (and on tour).
>>
>> The work done by our avant-art-tech networks and communities prompts
>> wonderful (I find them wonderful) encounters, activities and
>> conversations with park users, local residents (from every country-
>> perhaps- in the world) and exhibition visitors (local and international).
>>
>> But I too have had a feeling of un-ease about a disconnect with the
>> conversations that happen here on the list. This list is one of my
>> favourite places, and yet I find it hard to advocate for it, to
>> people who are not already here. Perhaps because email has now
>> acquired toxic associations for many people because of the demands it
>> places on 'immaterial labourers'.
>>
>> I have a couple of thoughts about what we might do.
>>
>> Firstly- a Netbehaviour subscriber could volunteer to host, here on
>> the list, any of the following people
>>
>> * artists in our upcoming show,
>> * a recent student placement student,
>> * any member of our regular (overworked) staff-team.
>>
>> I would invite them to join us as our guest, to talk about their
>> work, contribution and experience with Furtherfield. As a host you
>> would be responsible for making them feel welcome here and helping
>> them (by mailing with them in private) to negotiate conversations if
>> they were to get spikey: )
>>
>> Secondly
>>
>> If there is an appetite amongst netbehaviourists for more sharing of
>> Furtherfield process, it would be easy (and pleasurable, and useful,
>> and actually quite a relief) to open up and share some of the things
>> happening 'on the ground'. As long as people could tolerate
>> incompleteness (we have to take care not invade the privacy of
>> collaborators and partners), contradiction (I have an unruly mind),
>> and the occasional indefensible statement (we work it out as we go)
>> along the way.
>>
>> To give you a taste of what kinds of topics these might touch on let
>> me start with a brain dump of the possible [Netbehaviour] Subject
>> Headers about Furtherfield process.
>>
>> * DAOWO preparation excitement!
>> o see here http://www.furtherfield.org/artdatamoney/debate/
>>
>> * Reflections on attempting to maintain critical and politically
>> astute art processes - without being po-faced and elitist.
>>
>> * Installing work by [insert the names here of every artist in
>> Furtherfield's upcoming exhibition The Human Face of
>> Cryptoeconomies http://bit.ly/1VrLivJ ] at Furtherfield Gallery.
>>
>> * Calculations, tactics and strategies for dealing with
>> Furtherfield finances
>> o Talking to businesspeople (lots of odd feelings!) and how
>> Jeremy Corbyn is helping
>>
>> * Summer at the Museum of Contemporary Commodities - open
>> participatory process - an extreme sport.
>> o pictures here
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/http_gallery/sets/72157656437894006
>>
>> * Why Furtherfield Commons has had no landline for 3 months
>> o (How BT handed over our line to another service provider
>> without our agreement and then wouldn't get it back)
>>
>> * Preparations for an upcoming street programme 'The People's Magna
>> Carta' at Frequency Festival in Lincoln.
>>
>> * The Furtherfield website - opening up to noobs and improving
>> diversity of participants
>> o 7 placement students make themselves heard (it's all a bit
>> tricky!)
>>
>> * Seeds of a plan for an experimental innovation lab for values
>> based economies
>> o The Oslo Innovation Manual (apparently the role of arts,
>> design and culture go unaccounted for)
>>
>> * How blockchain is redolent with the decentralised distributed
>> promise of the early web
>> o How we're not falling for the utopian promise of blockchain -
>> but skippy with excitement nevertheless!
>>
>> * What 7 placement students said about their Summers with Furtherfield
>>
>> * How we are thinking about expanding outward and upward (and
>> inward) at the gallery/lab in the park and
>>
>> Finally...
>>
>> Thanks to Geert (see subject header) for carrying out this in depth
>> experiment with the Netbehaviour subscribers; )
>> and to Annie for investigating the cause of that sourness; )
>>
>>
>> What do you reckon???
>> Tell us, we'll do something!!!
>>
>> respect due!
>> Ruth
>>
>> On 30/09/15 22:11, Annie Abrahams wrote:
>>> hi Randall,
>>>
>>> I am not necesarrily asking for more, better media, for more
>>> livelyness, I am not sure I want more ...
>>> I would like a content re-de-placement, more of the processes going
>>> on (artistic and organisational) and les about results and "look
>>> what I have done" I would like that there would be more slowness,
>>> more attention, more time for open reflexion on what has been done,
>>> less representation and for now i see that still more in the
>>> mailinglist than on the social media. I think we should reinvent
>>> reinvest mailinglists! Netbehaviour first of all.
>>>
>>> see you
>>> Annie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Randall Packer <rpacker at zakros.com
>>> <mailto:rpacker at zakros.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m not sure where to set into this thread, which has become
>>> multi-threaded in all sorts of interesting directions.
>>>
>>> Regarding Geert: without going into a complete analysis, it’s
>>> not clear to me that he is aware of the many museums in the US
>>> and the around the world that are employing social media and
>>> what is called “user-generated content” in all sorts of
>>> compelling ways that invite engagement and social change. I have
>>> taught courses in the Johns Hopkins University Museum Studies
>>> program where the students are deeply involved with museum-based
>>> social and “visitor engagement,” to use another museum term. I
>>> believe the interview does have a few absolutes that have not
>>> been thoroughly researched, although I have the utmost respect
>>> for Geert and his critique of corporate-based social media: it’s
>>> just not fair to museums that are making striking progress, and
>>> of course the many alternative arts organizations, maker-faires,
>>> and hack-a-thons around the world that are incorporating
>>> socially-based forms of art and science.
>>>
>>> Regarding Annie’s concern for place: I agree, we need the means
>>> of interaction that while remote, give us a more real-time,
>>> visual, media-rich form of interaction and engagement. I enjoy
>>> the ease and simplicity of an email list, but there are times
>>> you want to see faces, hear voices, trade gestures, communicate
>>> with sound, all of which is near impossible in this medium as a
>>> live experience. There is no replacing the live: we need to
>>> embed the real-time into our networked interactions, which for
>>> many of us here has been at the heart of our artistic work and
>>> research. We are all nodes on a network, and we need to find
>>> ways to engage forms of live connectivity that are as easy as
>>> sending an email.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>> From: <netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org
>>> <mailto:netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org>> on behalf of
>>> Annie Abrahams
>>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:55 AM
>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink
>>>
>>> I have been to a shop to buy some coffee beans and while riding
>>> my bike, I thought : wasn't I a bit nasty to
>>> furtherfield/netbehaviour? When back I found some reactions that
>>> reassured me, but
>>> I had been thinking that somehow I was a bit sour on
>>> furtherfield/netbehaviour and I asked myself why, what would you
>>> like to be different, to change?
>>> A small idea popped up : I miss the connexion between
>>> furtherfield live in the park (where I imagine a lot of the work
>>> is happening) and furtherfield online - especially netbehaviour.
>>> Of course there are the announcements, info on the works showed
>>> of people I know online, but I miss thoughts by these actual
>>> artists who showed, worked with the real place on what is going
>>> on, on how the relation is constructed, of what their work does
>>> when place in a gallery place. I miss personal stories on this
>>> on netbehaviour.
>>>
>>> xxx
>>> Annie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:pallthay at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fascinating read. On gallery and museum embrace of
>>> post-internet art, I think there are two things going on.
>>> First of all, it's new and it's acceptance in galleries and
>>> museums is probably not much greater than internet art's
>>> acceptance was when it was new. Second of all, most of it
>>> takes forms which galleries and museums are familiar with,
>>> i.e. physical objects, prints, videos, etc. This is a far
>>> more attractive fit for commercial art galleries and doesn't
>>> pose any significant archiving issues for museums. At least,
>>> not ones that they haven't encountered before.
>>>
>>> Pall
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:26 AM marc garrett
>>> <marc.garrett2 at gmail.com <mailto:marc.garrett2 at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Paul, Dave, Annie & all,
>>>
>>> Regarding Geert's interview -- I actually agree with
>>> most of what he says. In fact, I tend to agree with most
>>> of his ideas and writings.
>>>
>>> I think as a group, we're in tune (usually
>>> coincidentally with his reflections) but, living through
>>> them within a grounded context, which is of our everyday
>>> life experience and as part of surviving as an artist
>>> led group in a neoliberalist dominated culture.
>>>
>>> The audience he's talking to is an e-flux audience, and
>>> I think e-flux are part of an neoliberalist, elite
>>> establishment, so it's positive he is discussing these
>>> issues to its audience.
>>>
>>> Although, Paul has mentioned already things have been
>>> getting better and there is evidence of things gettign
>>> better. I would say that's true in some ways, but it may
>>> also be true that some of us have got older and into
>>> power and so able to support media art and net art more
>>> these days. And before this was not the case ;-)
>>>
>>> Wishing you well.
>>>
>>>
>>> marc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 September 2015 at 14:07, Paul Hertz
>>> <ignotus at gmail.com <mailto:ignotus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, happy to post polemics, it's a kind of a
>>> hobby. :^}.
>>>
>>> I think there has been a tendency for mainstream
>>> curators to approach more recent digitally-mediated
>>> works as if they were in effect a sort of hybrid old
>>> media, while still neglecting both historical and
>>> current "pure" digital media. This has meant that
>>> certain kinds of digital hard copy (modded
>>> photographic prints, collage and drawings, and even
>>> 3D printing == "post-digital") can be welcomed while
>>> the internet as a platform is generally ignored. I
>>> don't have any more evidence for this than
>>> observation, and I have felt that the situation for
>>> digital art was improving over the last ten years.
>>> OTOH, I can readily understand the impatience.
>>>
>>> -- Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:56 AM, dave miller
>>> <dave.miller.uk at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:dave.miller.uk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Geert is probably correct though - seems
>>> to me the art "establishment" aren't interested
>>> in internet/ digital art, though maybe they have
>>> a different view of it from us on here. The art
>>> world remains a mystery to me, so I may well be
>>> wrong. Thank god for Furtherfield, and I would
>>> love to know who are the curators 'not'
>>> scared of it.
>>>
>>> What's the ‘post-digital’ bandwagon?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 30 September 2015 at 13:48, Annie Abrahams
>>> <bram.org at gmail.com <mailto:bram.org at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> don't be small, don't think sectarism
>>> Geert is closer to "us" than most "others"
>>> get in contact with him, explain and
>>> connect, use his critical energy
>>>
>>> invite him to curate, to build, to discuss
>>>
>>> xxx
>>> Annie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:40 PM, NIKOS V
>>> <nikos.vv at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:nikos.vv at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I see the relevance in this approach,
>>> allthough I have to say its allready to
>>> late for that criticism no?
>>>
>>> Moreover, is he really interested in art?
>>>
>>> If yes, as Marc says, where are the
>>> references and the names ?
>>>
>>> And why is Venice Biennial important?To
>>> whom????
>>>
>>> 2015-09-30 15:36 GMT+03:00 marc.garrett
>>> <marc.garrett at furtherfield.org
>>> <mailto:marc.garrett at furtherfield.org>>:
>>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Geert needs to be more specific and
>>> highlight the curators who are 'not'
>>> scared and who have been showing
>>> technical artwork such as
>>> Furtherifeld & others - his words
>>> are not grounded and are too
>>> absolute, they do not reflect reality...
>>>
>>> marc
>>>> http://conversations.e-flux.com/t/geert-lovink-on-social-media-and-the-arts/2581
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The absence at the 2015 Venice
>>>> Bienale of digital arts and
>>>> internet works says it all.
>>>> Curators are afraid to admit they
>>>> are clueless and continue their
>>>> ignorant attitude towards art that
>>>> deals with the digital in a direct
>>>> matter (while checking their smart
>>>> phone). Everyone jumps on the
>>>> ‘post-digital’ bandwagon because
>>>> that’s cute and safe. [...]
>>>> Curators and critics are more than
>>>> happy to embrace the race, gender,
>>>> even the anthroposcene (whatever
>>>> that is), but are blind for the
>>>> techno-politics of the equipment
>>>> and media they are using themselves
>>>> so intensely. The contradictions
>>>> are becoming absurd. Video was the
>>>> last technology they had to deal
>>>> with, but then it stopped."
>>>> — Geert Lovink
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>>
>>>> enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> -- Paul
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Mas de Prunet, Montpellier
>>> aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/
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>>> with Martina Ruhsam
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>>> *Marc Garrett* interviewed me for the *Choose Your Muse* series
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>>> de Prunet, Montpellier
>>> aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/
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>>> /online performances *On Object Agency *
>>> with Martina Ruhsam
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>>>
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