[NetBehaviour] Not quite so dismal

Randall Packer rpacker at zakros.com
Thu Sep 3 05:57:26 CEST 2015

Alan, great question and I welcome anyone who wants to reflect on the idea of the artist as mediator or interventionist. There is a history of artists and activists taking control of public spaces, either physically (Yes Men), virtually / symbolically (Ricardo Dominguez), or in the example I provided of the US Department of Art & Technology I created in 2001. Of course there are many more interventions to reference. 

On 9/3/15, 11:45 AM, "Alan Sondheim" <netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org on behalf of sondheim at panix.com> wrote:

>How do you go about doing that? As you know there was a huge amount of 
>activity of this sort in the 60s-80s US and it vanished; there's nothing - 
>now - to take control of - those spaces are abject and fractal and not 
>amenable to control from within or without - look at for example how Trump 
>has penetrated, fragmented electorates, even Fox news itself -
>- Alan
>On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, Randall Packer wrote:
>> Hi Dave? I would like to add that there is always the proactive strategy:
>> form your own artist-driven government agency; and create your own
>> artist-driven media. As media artists, we have access to the same techniques
>> and tools of propaganda as the mass media, and in most cases we are more
>> adept and nuanced in their use. So I say, we should do what we can to take
>> command of the social and political spaces that are governed & controlled by
>> the powers that be and make them our own. 
>> I.E.: http://zakros.com/projects/usdat/
>> Best,
>> Randall
>> From: <netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org> on behalf of dave miller
>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 2:50 AM
>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Not quite so dismal
>> Thanks Edward. That's really encouraging to see. Glad finally people are
>> speaking out. When government and news media control the discussion we get a
>> really unrepresentative picture.
>> Ana I totally agree we have to get to rid of these people - and particularly
>> the bankers.
>> On 2 Sep 2015 18:53, "Edward" <edward at edwardpicot.com> wrote:
>>       I've just spent a few minutes looking at the Avaaz
>>       petition/volunteer page on the subject of the refugee crisis:
>>       https://secure.avaaz.org/en/uk_refugees_volunteer_thank_you_3/
>>       There are new comments arriving every few seconds. People are
>>       calling on the UK Government to change its stance and
>>       volunteering
>>       to help, in many cases volunteering to give house-space to
>>       refugees. I think the government have misjudged the public mood
>>       on
>>       this one.
>>       - Edward
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