[NetBehaviour] from Mother Jones -

Ana Valdés agora158 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 23:59:28 CEST 2015


Dear Alan you have been in the Middle East as I has been. Israel receives per year billions of American support both military and economic. Without the American support Israel could not manage the fences in the West Bank and in Gaza.
They cost millions to keep. The new fence, separating the town of Bethlem in two, is cutting the Catholic monastery of Cremisan, which vineyards has been the only working place for hundreds of Palestinian families, in two. The Palestinian are not going any longer to access the vineyards.
The US was the heir of the colonial European and was the kingmaker of the region for years. The Marines derrocated the Iranian first minister In 1954 because he wanted to nationalise the oil and manage the wells without the American oil companies. It's not me "blaming the US" without historical facts. The same facts Eisenhower stated when he said "we are the hostages of the military industrial establishment".
My point is: who toppled Saddam and Ghadaffi and who has been supporting Assad all these years? The US economical and geopolitical strategies has created the refugees which are fleeing today the region and they are seen by politicians, weapon dealers, war mongers and bankers as "collateral damage".
That's my point why we are not seen in these days the same rallies to support the refugees we are seen in Europe?
You say "US is giving more than many other countries". But that's the most bizarre paradox: The US is taking with a hand and giving with the other hand.
The enormous profits which Halliburton and Cheney won should be taxed and paid to the refugees they created with the obscene Iraq war, a war based on lies and at flagrant crime against international law and common sense.
Ana


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> 4 sep 2015 kl. 18:17 skrev Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>:
> 
> 
> But the refugees ARE a European problem, and France was in the mid-east as well, England had its empire, Belgium its Leopold. You keep going after blame after blame after blame. Why not ask why the US is doing little? Apparently it's giving a lot more aid than other countries (think that was in the Guardian, I might be able to track the source down) combined. And Europe would not be taking refugees in, were they not coming across "its" borders. That's not the case here; what is the case is the horrific xenophobia which is placing the U.S. under lockdown. I see lots of calls for humanitarian support and aid, very little for bringing refugees over - I'm also not sure how that would be done, where they would come from - and this in the case of brutal opposition to the 11 million (apparently) undocumented workers/migrants here from central and south America - which is obviously far more than the total migrants to date in Europe. I'd like to see ALL refugees everywhere legalized; I can't do anything re: Europe, but we voice our opposition here to the Republican party and its proto- fascistic take on the world. That's pretty much all I can say about it.
> 
> - Alan
> 
>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Ana Vald?s wrote:
>> 
>> We see in the whole European world ppl gathering in supporting the refugees
>> biking to Calais from London with tents food and medicines in Stockholm
>> where I lived for almost my whole adult life thousands of families are
>> offering to open their houses to refugees.
>> And I am talking about a country with a xenophobe party with almost one
>> million voters.
>> Alan and the Americans in this list what are the US doing? I don't mean the
>> government but the ppl where are the rallies to help the refugees from the
>> Middle East, a region in turmoil since the wars started by the US and their
>> geopolitical strategies?
>> The refugees can't be an European problem.
>> Ana
>> El sep 4, 2015 2:39 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com> escribi?:
>> 
>>      Germany is set to take in 800,000 refugees by the end of the
>>      year.
>> 
>>      America, a country that won two World Wars, went to the moon,
>>      and did "the other things," has taken in, well, far fewer.
>> 
>>      Quoth the Guardian:
>> 
>>          The US has admitted approximately 1,500 Syrian refugees
>>      since the beginning of the civil war there in 2011, mostly
>>      within the last fiscal year. Since April, the number of admitted
>>      refugees has more than doubled from an estimate of 700.
>>          ...
>> 
>>          Anna Greene, IRCs director of policy & advocacy for US
>>      programs, said the 1,500 people the US has admitted thus far
>>      doesnt even begin to scratch the surface of what is needed and
>>      what could really make a difference.
>> 
>>      Oxfam wants the US to up that number to 70,000 by the end of
>>      2016.
>> 
>>      Correction: This post and its headline originally said that
>>      Germany planned to take in 800,000 Syrian refugees by the end of
>>      the year. That is incorrect. It is 800,000 refugees total.
>> 
>>      - Alan
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