sondheim at panix.com
Sun Apr 24 21:28:06 CEST 2016
The crux, again, is this - you say -
I doubt the
> capabilities of our species are any more than any other in the ability
> to alter the fundamentals of Life.
- but from everything I've read and researched, this just isn't true.
The disagreement is deep; for one thing I don't feel guilty, but a need to
act. The argument that 'this too shall pass away' can be applied to
anything - seriously, why worry about what ISIS is doing, when ISIS won't
last, any more than we will? Why do anything? I'm not trying to be
specious here; perhaps I feel an urgency that you don't, or an urgency
that involves withdrawal and listening as well as acting; too often fast
actions result in fast disasters...
Again, I may be missing the point (and if I carry decelerationism to the
limit I'll turn into a rock) -
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, John Hopkins wrote:
> Hi Alan -
>> You know well that the diff. between this and the Perm. for example is this
>> the result of a particular species running amuck. And with 40-50 % of ocean
>> scheduled to disappear, etc. as a result of climate, microspherules, etc.,
>> situation is a mess. Yes, there will be something afterwords. But we're
>> slaughterers trashing the planet, and for me that's unacceptable.
> I hear where you are coming from, and no disrespect, just disagreement about
> how to act/react.
> It's there I disagree -- in the differentiation of us as some special
> life-form, separate from everything, above, better at trashing, whatever. We
> are doing what Life always does: helping wind down the universe to its heat
> death, whatever, by expending available energy to maximize our (Life's!) need
> to project itself into the future.
> In terms of historical geological epoch, I was not talking about an
> extinction event, but more of the geodynamics of Life at that point in
> history. Carboniferous coal beds came from a vast anaerobic dead/dying zone
> that evolved on Pangea's equatorial region -- as a result of a massive
> fluorishing of Life that came from the easy availability of energies at that
> time. The life-forms that fluorished in that environment gave their lives
> into creating higher-level (energy packaging) hydrocarbon bonds that our
> life-form is now releasing, eventually, back into space as waste heat. We are
> not special.
> Guilt driven by ethereal or unrealized altruism needs to be replaced by
> active awareness and actions that the species is capable of. I doubt the
> capabilities of our species are any more than any other in the ability to
> alter the fundamentals of Life. Consume available energy until it is gone,
> then pass away. At best, offer ones own body as sustenance for others to gain
> from, for a time, until they too shall pass... etc.
> Dr. John Hopkins, BSc, MFA, PhD
> grounded on a granite batholith
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