[NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2912, Issue 1

Wed Nov 30 20:16:48 CET 2016

I post on Fb also because I reach people I wouldn't otherwise. But Fb 
frightens me; what started off close to a message board has become more 
and move involved in manipulation of consciousness. Remember people's 
birthday; tell X this or that; the change to large-font proclamation- 
style text if you post a short statement; the constant automatic changing 
to 'top stories' from 'most recent; the disguise of advertising as 
content; 'suggested pages'; 'trending'; 'people you may know' with the 
imperative 'add friend'; and a deep inability to control _any_ of this.
G+ is worse at this point, constantly trying to get me to 'like' 
'collections' of images that are useless and get in the way of any 
possible discussion. I'd leave both but then I'd be leaving people who 
still interest me. It's frightening, though, how much control 
Zuckerbargain and company have over the rest of us - particularly people 
who take all of this for granted.

In the meantime the weather here is wonderfully horrendous -

On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, x wrote:

> It does seem curious how:
> * when arab spring has sprang, fb was happy to claim and collect praises and
> acolytes.
> * when authoritarianism/alt-right popped their recent champaign bubbles out
> of plebs' sweat, tears and fears - fb is just a neutral tech, never ever
> been to any events remotely like "tech is not neutral" -
> nor have we, fb, ever heard of, nor from, ted nelson and such.
> * when the above assertion of neutrality became controversial somehow with
> "liberal minded" acolytes, it became profitable to keep the bubble
> algorithms (that entertain and feed ad money), and go for xenophobia - errr
> censorship - which is exactly the stuff "liberal minded" people happened to
> demand.
> 
> Indeed, perhaps "fb - we abuse people, intelligence, algorithms, anything,
> you tag it" might well do for an honest logo/tag-line? Oh.. but is it not
> "post-truth" golden handshake? err, time..?
> 
> Cheers and hope you survived the rant intact...
> 
> aharon
> xx
> 
> (going to disturb the good people of newhaven with questions from art
> shortly..)
> 
> 
> November 30 2016 10:03 AM, "AGF poemproducer" <agf at poemproducer.com> wrote:
>  
>       it is also one of the 2 biggest super-imperialists using our
>       digital labour, fake news distributer +++privacy abuser etc
>   
>       On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:47, Charlotte Elizabeth Webb
>       <c.webb4 at chelsea.arts.ac.uk> wrote:
>  Last night I was watching Astra Taylor give a keynote for the
> 2016 Rhizome Seven on Seven event, and she made a good point
> that 'purity' re: Facebook (i.e. not being there on principle)
> is counter-effective when it comes to political organising,
> because it is simply where the people are.
> X Charlotte
>  
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> From: netbehaviour-bounces at netbehaviour.org <netbehaviour-bounces at netbehavi
> our.org> on behalf of AGF poemproducer <agf at poemproducer.com>
> Sent: 30 November 2016 09:23
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2912,
> Issue 1
> Alan, leave facebook and keep posting
> agee
>  
>       On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:11, x <misnom at spell.blue>
>       wrote:
>  Utterly agree here with Michael, Ruth, and I suspect many
> others, and others I've missed.
> 
> Will def miss Alan's stuff if it were on FB as FB isn't
> going to be on my network anytime soon.
> +
> Alan,  if most posts went to FB, would it not be an
> illustration of how the "feed-bubble" is wrapping goo over
> mindful attention spans?
> Alan --> Please Don't Go!
> 
> Perhaps my time recall requires an apology, was it not
> only a few months back when we've discussed how NB could
> be at times so many people use the fb. I think neterarti
> came as a response to that conversation?
> 
> Surely, when a person - or just me (?) - signs up to a
> mailinglist, it's with Otherness within a certain range
> that you go for? Other rather than a bubble? And by
> extension, a bit of Adorno's notion of "art" as un-able to
> be entertaining, "art" as a radical that constantly links
> away from cultural comforting beats?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> aharon
> xxx
> 
> November 30 2016 8:51 AM, "ruth catlow"
> <ruth.catlow at furtherfield.org> wrote:
>       Agreed!
>       Same!
>       Alan, You are the highly valued artistic
>       "ping" of Netbehaviour.
>
>       It's been a while - but there have been times
>       when many more of us posted work regularly.
>
>       I for one would love to what Netbehaviour
>       people are up to on a more daily basis.
>       If it wasn't for Annie's post last week, I
>       would not have got to experience the networked
>       "feeling" experiment hosted by The Nunnery
>       Gallery last week- which changed the way I
>       listen to machines.
>
>       Please people, don't hold back.
>
>       Ruth
>       On 30/11/16 08:18, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>  
>       Please don't cut down Alan. People are
>       grown ups and can exercise some choice
>       as to what they view.
> I don't look at everything you post by any
> means but I'm glad it's there.
> michael
> 
>  
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed
> creativity <netbehaviour at netbehaviour.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour
> Digest, Vol 2912, Issue 1
> 
> 
> 
> I'm cutting back on my posts on Nb; I don't
> want to be either a nuisance
> or feel responsible for unsubbing. I'll post
> every few days w/ urls; the
> usual daily sludge will be on Fb -
> 
> - Alan
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