[NetBehaviour] What the hell with Snapchat?? Help!

Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Thu Sep 1 03:31:29 CEST 2016



of course if you came and visited us, that might take care of the problem 
:-)

- Alan

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016, Johannes Birringer wrote:

>
> the clunky email discussion lists do not always work as well (as this spontaneous & wild one here)
> when they are moderated and controlled and when there is a fictive membership (hundreds, thousands?)
> that do not engage in debates so that the extended discussion, as Alan seems to think it exists in empyre,.
> is matter of a dozen guests a month who have been gathered into a forum - this can be very good and very provocative, indeed,
> but I also have seen less and less listening,  Alan, than you suggest; and a lot of posters.
>
> putting human experience out of reach of machines?  tell me.
>
>
> best wishes
> Johannes Birringer
>
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> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] What the hell with Snapchat?? Help!
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> email lists, which still seem on the wane, seem to be the only online
> forum for extended discussion and a kind of 'care' in reading that's
> almost impossible elsewhere. that's why empyre, for example, works so
> well. there's a kind of reading-voice and interiority that allows for
> thoughtfulness, listening...
>
> - Alan
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016, ruth catlow wrote:
>
>> I now work on the assumption that anything that i do using social media is
>> allowing profit-driven corporations to reach into my person, harvest parts of
>> my subjective experience even I didn't know about, for their own profit, and
>> at the risk of alienating my current selves from my future selves.
>>
>> long live clunky email discussion lists : )
>>
>> putting (a little part of) human experience out of the reach of the machines
>> - ha hah!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30/08/16 00:16, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree with you but this seems particularly intrusive; basically, it wants
>>> to take control of one's life -
>>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, John Hopkins wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Help - am I missing something? This is what Snapchat can access
>>>>> on my PC if I install it - it seems like a serious invasion of
>>>>> privacy. Any comments greatly appreciated - Alan
>>>>
>>>> at this point, anything on social media is going to to this and more --
>>>> no need to be surprised, eh, Alan? more data = more $$ -- it's nauseating
>>>> imho.
>>>>
>>>> is there any 'net privacy available anymore? doesn't seem like it...
>>>>
>>>> jh
>>>>
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