[NetBehaviour] linux laptops

Sun May 28 16:01:35 CEST 2017

might also interest people here:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/zerophone/

is there a workshop in it..? ;)

cheers!

ahanox?
xxx

May 27 2017 12:51 PM, "aharon" <misnom at spell.blue> wrote:
> Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os..
> Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the price.. out of my range, but is this difference in price the
> kind of number, in pounds, euros and other currencies - of a person's mobile-linked freedom?
> the price to pay for not working for google's fame and fortune?
> 
> cheers!
> 
> aharon
> xx
> 
> May 24 2017 1:07 PM, "helen varley jamieson" <helen at creative-catalyst.com> wrote:
> 
>> i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum of alternative operating systems:
>> https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses
>> 
>> (i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the standard fairphone kola nut OS)
>> 
>> h : )
>> 
>> On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote:
>> 
>>> oh.. operating systems..
>>> just had over a month of being on road and having to keep technologically cheap yet light..
>>> hence still suffering android..
>>> 
>>> am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence of quality free operating system
>>> for mobile devices?
>>> 
>>> rant apart 😃 if people need a light, Graphical and upto date os for an old netbook laptop etc
>>> maybe check puppylinux,?
>>> you can get, in a sense, latest ubuntu or slackware running on an old or new netbook
>>> without habing to deal with the commandline bits..
>>> 
>>> ciao from brasilia.
>>> aharon
>>> xxx
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from myMail for Android
>>> 
>>> Monday, 22 May 2017, 10:22pm -03:00 from Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com:
>>> 
>>>> It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a graphic os on
>>>> it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it!
>>>> 
>>>> - Alan
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote:
>>>>> It's only really the command line tools (which is still a lot!).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few BASH scripts with
>>>>> Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10 Anniversary update
>>>>> which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to install - and takes 3/4
>>>>> hour to not install :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/05/17 23:40, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using limited memory (like
>>>>>> my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser -
>>>>>> Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in Win10 - I have it
>>>>>> working there as well. It comes with the OS,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Alan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks alan :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how quickly everything
>>>>>>> runs!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> h : )
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact
>>>>>>> I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs
>>>>>>> fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a
>>>>>>> different one in maybe 15 minutes, so you can tailor the linux
>>>>>>> distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use linux mint for the most part,
>>>>>>> lots of terminal stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck with this!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Alan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for
>>>>>>> advice about buying a
>>>>>>> linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now
>>>>>>> happily working with ubuntu
>>>>>>> mate on a no-brand machine :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand &
>>>>>>> B-ware (ex-display)
>>>>>>> machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp,
>>>>>>> acer, asus, etc etc ... )
>>>>>>> & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables.
>>>>>>> nothing was exactly what
>>>>>>> i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise.
>>>>>>> i had a couple of
>>>>>>> things that were definite - not bigger than 14",
>>>>>>> must have ethernet port,
>>>>>>> prefereably separate audio in & out; so that
>>>>>>> narrowed things down quite a
>>>>>>> bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand
>>>>>>> laptops with linux
>>>>>>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could
>>>>>>> choose the hard drive,
>>>>>>> RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after
>>>>>>> i ordered it. i took it
>>>>>>> out of the box, turned it on, & started using it.
>>>>>>> the trickiest thing i've
>>>>>>> had to do so far was use the command line to get it
>>>>>>> to talk nicely to my
>>>>>>> printer - & i managed that without incident.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard
>>>>>>> shortcuts - it's easier to take
>>>>>>> a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (?),
>>>>>>> & there are a couple of
>>>>>>> things i still need to work out. & one loss is that
>>>>>>> there are no linux
>>>>>>> drivers for my wireless webcam, so i'm back to a
>>>>>>> tethered webcam for now.
>>>>>>> but it is soooo much faster than my old mac, & i've
>>>>>>> found most of the
>>>>>>> software that i need.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so if anyone else out there is also considering
>>>>>>> making the switch to linux,
>>>>>>> i say - just do it! :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> h : )
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> helen varley jamieson
>>>>>>> helen at creative-catalyst.com
>>>>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>>>>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have a situation, Coventry!
>>>>>>> 24 November 2016
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> helen varley jamieson
>>>>>>> helen at creative-catalyst.com
>>>>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>>>>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have a situation, Coventry!
>>>>>>> 24 November 2016
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>> http://www.upstage.org.nzWe have a situation, Coventry!
>> 24 November 2016