[NetBehaviour] linux laptops
helen varley jamieson
helen at creative-catalyst.com
Mon May 29 14:47:48 CEST 2017
well, the price is more like what it really should cost to make a phone
- if the people making it are paid properly and not exploited.
so if you believe that people should be paid properly, & have good
working conditions, then you should be prepared to pay this and more for
phones & other technology.
you also get good service - humans respond promptly to enquiries, there
is a good online support forum, & you can send your phone back for safe
recycling when you've finished with it.
really, the price is very reasonable!
h : )
On 27.05.2017 13:50, aharon wrote:
> Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os..
> Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the price.. out of my range, but is
> this difference in price the kind of number, in pounds, euros and
> other currencies - of a person's mobile-linked freedom?
> the price to pay for not working for google's fame and fortune?
>
> cheers!
>
> aharon
> xx
>
> May 24 2017 1:07 PM, "helen varley jamieson"
> <helen at creative-catalyst.com
> <mailto:%22helen%20varley%20jamieson%22%20%3Chelen at creative-catalyst.com%3E>>
> wrote:
>
> i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum
> of alternative operating systems:
> https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses
>
> (i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the
> standard fairphone kola nut OS)
>
> h : )
>
>
> On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote:
>
>>
>> oh.. operating systems..
>> just had over a month of being on road and having to keep
>> technologically cheap yet light..
>> hence still suffering android..
>>
>> am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence
>> of quality free operating system for mobile devices?
>>
>> rant apart 😃 if people need a light, Graphical and upto date os
>> for an old netbook laptop etc
>> maybe check puppylinux,?
>> you can get, in a sense, latest ubuntu or slackware running on an
>> old or new netbook
>> without habing to deal with the commandline bits..
>>
>> ciao from brasilia.
>> aharon
>> xxx
>>
>> --
>> Sent from myMail for Android
>>
>> Monday, 22 May 2017, 10:22pm -03:00 from Alan Sondheim
>> sondheim at panix.com <mailto:sondheim at panix.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a
>> graphic os on
>> it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it!
>>
>> - Alan
>>
>> On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote:
>>
>> > It's only really the command line tools (which is still a
>> lot!).
>> >
>> > I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few
>> BASH scripts with
>> > Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10
>> Anniversary update
>> > which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to
>> install - and takes 3/4
>> > hour to not install :-(
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22/05/17 23:40, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using
>> limited memory (like
>> >> my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser -
>> >> Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in
>> Win10 - I have it
>> >> working there as well. It comes with the OS,
>> >>
>> >> - Alan
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks alan :)
>> >>>
>> >>> i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how
>> quickly everything
>> >>> runs!
>> >>>
>> >>> h : )
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in
>> fact
>> >>> I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs
>> >>> fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a
>> >>> different one in maybe 15 minutes, so you can tailor the
>> linux
>> >>> distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use linux mint for the most
>> part,
>> >>> lots of terminal stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>> Good luck with this!
>> >>>
>> >>> - Alan
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for
>> >>> advice about buying a
>> >>> linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now
>> >>> happily working with ubuntu
>> >>> mate on a no-brand machine :)
>> >>>
>> >>> i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand &
>> >>> B-ware (ex-display)
>> >>> machines, & also at new models (lenovo, dell, hp,
>> >>> acer, asus, etc etc ... )
>> >>> & got quite overwhelmed by the choice & variables.
>> >>> nothing was exactly what
>> >>> i wanted, & i couldn't decide on what to compromise.
>> >>> i had a couple of
>> >>> things that were definite - not bigger than 14",
>> >>> must have ethernet port,
>> >>> prefereably separate audio in & out; so that
>> >>> narrowed things down quite a
>> >>> bit, but still i wasn't finding anything that felt
>> >>> right.
>> >>>
>> >>> then i found a uk company that sells no-brand
>> >>> laptops with linux
>> >>> pre-installed (https://www.entroware.com). i could
>> >>> choose the hard drive,
>> >>> RAM, keyboard layout, etc & it arrived 5 days after
>> >>> i ordered it. i took it
>> >>> out of the box, turned it on, & started using it.
>> >>> the trickiest thing i've
>> >>> had to do so far was use the command line to get it
>> >>> to talk nicely to my
>> >>> printer - & i managed that without incident.
>> >>>
>> >>> i'm still adjusting to the non-mac keyboard
>> >>> shortcuts - it's easier to take
>> >>> a screenshot but more difficult to do an umlaut (?),
>> >>> & there are a couple of
>> >>> things i still need to work out. & one loss is that
>> >>> there are no linux
>> >>> drivers for my wireless webcam, so i'm back to a
>> >>> tethered webcam for now.
>> >>> but it is soooo much faster than my old mac, & i've
>> >>> found most of the
>> >>> software that i need.
>> >>>
>> >>> so if anyone else out there is also considering
>> >>> making the switch to linux,
>> >>> i say - just do it! :)
>> >>>
>> >>> h : )
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