[NetBehaviour] Maecenas

[Rob Myers]

Yes I can help if anyone is interested.

Precedent-wise there's -

http://interaccess.org/event/2017/bitcoin-ethereum-and-conceptual-art

Or my own -

http://robmyers.org/art-coins-coloured/

But neither of these are *nothing*. :-)

- Rob.


On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, at 10:36 AM, Edward Picot wrote:
> Great! - I'm not sure where you go with it after that, though.
> 
>  You could offer something non-existent for sale on OpenBazaar easily
>  enough. That would be one option. What appealed to me, though, was
>  the idea of selling shares in a non-existent work of art, in the hope
>  that the shares would keep changing hands and their value would keep
>  increasing, so that if you retained something like a 25% stake in the
>  work, that stake would keep increasing in value too.> 
>  The paradox, of course, would be that by announcing that you were
>  creating a non-existent work of art, and offering shares in it, you
>  would in effect be creating an actual conceptual work of art about
>  the marketing and the market value of art. That's why I thought the
>  images from Curt Cloninger's essay about nothing would be appropriate
>  (for advertising the existence, or rather non-existence, of the work
>  and the availability of shares), because he's investigating the
>  paradox that you can't create a representation of nothing without
>  that representation being a something.> 
>  I expect Rob could advise about how to set up the shares thing.
> 
>  Edward
> 
>  On 15/10/17 16:22, ruth catlow wrote:
>> Not sure this is the best tool
>> https://etherpad.net/p/MarlyStudiedTheQuotations
>> 
>>  but a place to start
>> 
>>  On 15/10/17 16:15, ruth catlow wrote:
>>> I'd be up for thinking this one through.
>>>  Let's do it.
>>> 
>>>  On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote:
>>>> Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first one
>>>> hadn't worked.>>>> 
>>>>  On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote:
>>>>> Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual
>>>>> work of art that didn't actually exist at all - we could use some
>>>>> ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it
>>>>> - and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds to
>>>>> Furtherfield, unless the value went above a trillion dollars, in
>>>>> which case I want a cut.>>>>> 
>>>>>  Edward
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow wrote:
>>>>>>> Perfectly put Helen!
>>>>>>> Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't
>>>>>>> my idea of utopia.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down again. This,
>>>>>> she supposed, was the aspect of art that she had the most
>>>>>> difficulty understanding. Picard, if that was the man's name, was
>>>>>> speaking with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of a
>>>>>> certain number of "points" of the work of a particular artist. A
>>>>>> "point" might be defined in any number of ways, depending on the
>>>>>> medium involved, but it was almost certain that Picard would
>>>>>> never see the works he was purchasing. If the artist enjoyed
>>>>>> sufficient status, the originals were very likely crated away in
>>>>>> some vault, where no one saw them at all. Days or years later,
>>>>>> Picard might pick up that same phone and order the broker to
>>>>>> sell. """>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - William Gibson, "Count Zero", 1986.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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