[NetBehaviour] "what's the point of being perfect?"

Randall Packer rpacker at zakros.com
Thu Jan 18 00:47:59 CET 2018

Thanks Helen for your remarks. Marc and Ruth’s work needs to be documented, and not just by themselves. As for me, they are central to a book I am working on as I believe they are a primary example of collaborative thinking and social practice in contemporary art. I hope others can check out the interview if you haven’t yet seen it: https://thirdspacenetwork.com/ruth-catlow-marc-garrett/


All best,



From: NetBehaviour <netbehaviour-bounces at lists.netbehaviour.org> on behalf of helen varley jamieson <helen at creative-catalyst.com>
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Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 10:13 PM
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Subject: [NetBehaviour] "what's the point of being perfect?"


finally i managed to listen to the recording of randall's interview with marc & ruth - i was present for the first half hour, but unfortunately had to leave. so it's great to have the recording! (a little bit frustrating not to be able to read the chat, but listening is the main thing).

it's lovely to hear marc & ruth tell the story of furtherfield & various artists & projects along the way, it really gives an overview of the phases and progress of not only internet art and online communities but also of the wider social, political & economic context of the time(s). it's really something special that furtherfield has persisted, in a world where financial pressures, burn-out, changing trends, etc mean that many initiatives are pretty short-lived. it's in large part thanks to the strength of ruth & marc, but also the fact that furtherfield isn't only ruth & marc, it really is a community. we need furtherfield, furtherfield needs us, & it's a nurturing feedback loop :)

near the end of the interview, marc asks (rhetorically), "what's the point of being perfect?" most of us have experienced being paralysed by perfectionism, and agonised over imperfections. but marc's right, being perfect is something to strive for, but if we actually get there ... then what???? failure is so much more interesting!! 

so thanks marc, i'm holding onto that phrase as i struggle imperfectly on! 

h : )

helen varley jamieson
helen at creative-catalyst.com

Magdalena München Saison 2018
2 Februar - 28 April 2018
Frauen - Theater - Performance

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