[NetBehaviour] Fires in Australia
Mez Breeze
netwurker at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 20:24:57 CET 2020
Just watch this, it'll tell u all you ned to know regarding the Aus gov's
response to the fires: https://youtu.be/buw5WufsP5k.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM T via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
> hi
> excellent idea edward this could work as plan to the capital world!
>
> bolsonaro was elected cause vast majority of us are like him
> unfortunately that is all we have been taught to be blind
>
> behind the idea that we already consume daily other species nature far
> more than is acceptable
>
> blind to our obvious violent racist patriarchal specist origins
>
> our cosmologies are falling right now, as it has been for some time
>
> as krenak indigenous xama say we better use coloured parachutes for the
> fall
>
> art, rituals, repair and care
>
>
> Em 2020-01-05 12:17, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour escreveu:
> > Ana,
> >
> > As for Bolsonaro, it's my belief, and has been for many years, that if
> > the West expects a country like Brazil to preserve rainforests and
> > biodiversity on behalf of the whole world, then they have to pay them
> > to do it, and I mean serious money. It should be worth more
> > financially to preserve the forests and export oxygen for the benefit
> > of the rest of us than to cut them down and plant palm oil or create
> > beef farms or whatever. Then there wouldn't be any argument.
> >
> > Bolsonaro is an arsehole, but wagging a finger at him in the style of
> > Macron isn't going to make him budge.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > On 05/01/2020 15:05, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for sharing so important inputs and thoughts! I feel a
> >> growing frustration about how politicians are handling this issues.
> >> In the worst draugh a province in Australia sold the common water to
> >> a private enterprise.
> >> And neither Bolsonaro or Morrison or Trump are acting as leaders in
> >> time of a crisis. They carry on and on and on not relating fires to
> >> capitalism and its ways, fracking and mining.
> >> They despise the knowledge of scientists and of the aboriginal ways
> >> to live and work they blame the people speaking about climate
> >> change.
> >> I assume many on this list are familiar with Donna Haraway. Her
> >> writings about the Anthroposcene a new age where we, Mankind, are
> >> responsible for disasters and ways to live which unsettle Nature and
> >> the natural order are very important and give advice and
> >> explanations.
> >> Ana
> >>
> >> El El dom, 5 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 11:43, Edward Picot via
> >> NetBehaviour <netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> escribió:
> >>
> >> Helen,
> >>
> >> That's really useful information about the donation links and the
> >> Adani coal mine. I didn't know about the coal mine before.
> >>
> >> As for Scott Morrison and his government, I think there's more to it
> >> than sheer stupidity. As with Trump and Boris Johnson, there's a
> >> right-wing populist agenda at play, which is all about protecting
> >> and promoting the interests of big business, but it sustains itself
> >> in power by appealing to certain lowest-common-denominator
> >> prejudices in the minds of the voting public, and serving up what
> >> are basically lies to reinforce its appeal. So Morrison has now
> >> moved on from claiming that the link between bushfires and global
> >> warming is all in the minds of urban woke greeny loony lefties; he's
> >> now claiming that he never denied that link in the first place; but
> >> he's also making out that the bushfires are particularly bad because
> >> the greeny loony lefties have been blocking bushfire hazard
> >> reduction measures in the national parks. This is rejected as
> >> nonsense by bushfire experts, but the claim doesn't have to be
> >> accurate to make its impact. And that's the problem. Populist
> >> politics has found the faultline in modern democracy, where things
> >> don't have to be true, or even make sense, to influence voting
> >> patterns; they use tactics of misinformation and misdirection as a
> >> deliberate policy to sustain themselves in power. And the left/green
> >> parties haven't yet found a way to counteract those tactics, or to
> >> tap into the huge groundswell of opinion which is undoubtedly
> >> building behind environmentalist causes, particularly amongst the
> >> young. In countries like the UK young people just take it for
> >> granted that something urgently needs to be done about the
> >> environment; but they don't have any faith in the political parties
> >> to deliver the required changes. So their convictions don't
> >> translate into votes. And you can't blame them. The environment
> >> hardly featured as an issue in the election we just had.
> >>
> >> Things are going to change, I'm sure. But how much damage is the
> >> planet going to sustain before the changes happen? It's a
> >> frightening prospect.
> >>
> >> Edward
> >>
> >> On 05/01/2020 13:10, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
> >>
> >> hi alan,
> >>
> >> it is truly devastating & catastrophic what is happening in
> >> australia, & outrageous that the government there continues to be so
> >> fucking stupid. i heard that scott morrison (the prime minister, who
> >> chose to have a hawaiian holiday in the midst of it all) would fly
> >> out to china to discuss trade negotiations, including coal mining,
> >> immediately after meeting with fire chiefs. his inability to make
> >> the connections is staggering.
> >>
> >> i have many family and friends in australia and everyone is affected
> >> in some way; some have lost property, everyone is affected by the
> >> smoke, my family & friends in new zealand are also seeing and
> >> breathing the smoke. yes, an estimated half a billion birds, animals
> >> & insects have died. and the fires are still burning, many out of
> >> control, and no end in sight. this level of catastrophe has been
> >> predicted - but not for another decade; everything is accelerating.
> >>
> >> what can we do? suzon posted this list of donation links:
> >>
> >
> https://www.abc.net.au/classic/read-and-watch/news/bushfire-donations/11823676
> >> - there are plenty of places to make financial donations & if you
> >> are in australia there are practical things you can do to help.
> >>
> >> we can write to scott morrison (@scottmorrisonmp on twitter) and
> >> other australian politicians, urging them to take the climate
> >> emergency seriously (australia is one of the worst countries in the
> >> world in terms of climate policy:
> >>
> >
> https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-climate-change-policy-ranked-57-out-of-61-countries
> )
> >>
> >>
> >> a related campaign that is well worth supporting is the long
> >> struggle against the adani coal mine - is a major fossil-fuel
> >> extraction project which will contribute massively to global warming
> >> as well as being totally unethical. the queensland government
> >> illegally rescinded native title to allow the mine to go ahead, &
> >> the wangan & jagalingou indigenous people have been bankrupted
> >> trying to stop the mine.
> >> https://wanganjagalingou.com.au/pledge-to-stand-with-us/
> >> https://www.acf.org.au/email_siemens_global
> >>
> >> it's hard to wish a happy new year in the face of all of this (not
> >> to mention the tragic zoo fire in germany, 30 primates killed thanks
> >> to someone's carelessness) but i can only hope that the scale of
> >> devastation will force politicians to accept that they must act,
> >> urgently, and that we will enter into a decade of positive change
> >> ...
> >>
> >> h xx
> >> On 03.01.20 20:26, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> >>
> >> (Apologies for a 2nd post today; I think the situation warrants it.
> >> How do we, as a community, respond to this? To the approx. 480m
> >> killed? To a Ballard future collapsing around us? How do we stop
> >> from harming ourselves, how can we act intelligently with this like
> >> this - on top of all the other horrors? Because this is going to
> >> spread of course; the ash on NZ glaciers accelerating melt. What do
> >> we do? What do we do as a community?)
> >>
> >> Fires in Australia
> >>
> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.jpg (map)
> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.mp3 (radio)
> >>
> >> In Pennsylvania, we had house-destroying floods, mine fires,
> >> highly polluted air. We went back and explored the area (around
> >> Wilkes-Barre/Kingston) last April. I've had my own things
> >> destroyed in floods several times, oddly including a storage
> >> container in Los Angeles, a closet in Providence, my parents'
> >> house in Kingston. But nothing, ever, like this. Reading Ballard,
> >> the world's future is spelled out as a scenario for now. Teaching
> >> "The Year 3000" back in the early 70s, I was face-to-face with
> >> the statistics. I've continue to talk and write and think about
> >> this. I was influenced by post-modern geography, and by the
> >> collapsed flora of the Carboniferous/Pennsylvanian, which I
> >> collected. I grew up negative. I've been following the fires and
> >> started interviewing a few people by Skype, people from eastern
> >> Australia. I'm trying to make sense of this, trying to find
> >> optimism in a situation which I see as the beginning of something
> >> problematic, horrifying. (I'll send the interviews out to the
> >> lists.) I listened late last night (here) to the radio - a short
> >> segment is above. The map gives some indication of locations.
> >>
> >> There was a report that 480 million animals have died in the
> >> fires. It's inconceivable, as is the number.
> >>
> >> Best, hopefully, Alan
> >>
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> >> helen varley jamieson
> >>
> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com
> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
> >> http://www.upstage.org.nz
> >>
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