[NetBehaviour] Fires in Australia

Ann Light ann.light at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 20:48:19 CET 2020


Wow. This is such a good piece for sharing. Thanks. Love and rage, Ann

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:28 PM Mez Breeze via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Just watch this, it'll tell u all you ned to know regarding the Aus gov's
> response to the fires: https://youtu.be/buw5WufsP5k.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM T via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> hi
>> excellent idea edward this could work as plan to the capital world!
>>
>> bolsonaro was elected cause vast majority of us are like him
>> unfortunately that  is all we have been taught to be blind
>>
>> behind the idea that we already consume daily other species nature far
>> more than is acceptable
>>
>> blind to our obvious violent racist patriarchal specist origins
>>
>> our cosmologies are falling right now, as it has been for some time
>>
>> as krenak indigenous xama say we better use coloured parachutes for the
>> fall
>>
>> art, rituals, repair and care
>>
>>
>> Em 2020-01-05 12:17, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour escreveu:
>> > Ana,
>> >
>> > As for Bolsonaro, it's my belief, and has been for many years, that if
>> > the West expects a country like Brazil to preserve rainforests and
>> > biodiversity on behalf of the whole world, then they have to pay them
>> > to do it, and I mean serious money. It should be worth more
>> > financially to preserve the forests and export oxygen for the benefit
>> > of the rest of us than to cut them down and plant palm oil or create
>> > beef farms or whatever. Then there wouldn't be any argument.
>> >
>> > Bolsonaro is an arsehole, but wagging a finger at him in the style of
>> > Macron isn't going to make him budge.
>> >
>> > Edward
>> >
>> > On 05/01/2020 15:05, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for sharing so important inputs and thoughts! I feel a
>> >> growing frustration about how politicians are handling this issues.
>> >> In the worst draugh a province in Australia sold the common water to
>> >> a private enterprise.
>> >> And neither Bolsonaro or Morrison or Trump are acting as leaders in
>> >> time of a crisis. They carry on and on and on not relating fires to
>> >> capitalism and its ways, fracking and mining.
>> >> They despise the knowledge of scientists and of the aboriginal ways
>> >> to live and work they blame the people speaking about climate
>> >> change.
>> >> I assume many on this list are familiar with Donna Haraway. Her
>> >> writings about the Anthroposcene a new age where we, Mankind, are
>> >> responsible for disasters and ways to live which unsettle Nature and
>> >> the natural order are very important and give advice and
>> >> explanations.
>> >> Ana
>> >>
>> >> El El dom, 5 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 11:43, Edward Picot via
>> >> NetBehaviour <netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> escribió:
>> >>
>> >> Helen,
>> >>
>> >> That's really useful information about the donation links and the
>> >> Adani coal mine. I didn't know about the coal mine before.
>> >>
>> >> As for Scott Morrison and his government, I think there's more to it
>> >> than sheer stupidity. As with Trump and Boris Johnson, there's a
>> >> right-wing populist agenda at play, which is all about protecting
>> >> and promoting the interests of big business, but it sustains itself
>> >> in power by appealing to certain lowest-common-denominator
>> >> prejudices in the minds of the voting public, and serving up what
>> >> are basically lies to reinforce its appeal. So Morrison has now
>> >> moved on from claiming that the link between bushfires and global
>> >> warming is all in the minds of urban woke greeny loony lefties; he's
>> >> now claiming that he never denied that link in the first place; but
>> >> he's also making out that the bushfires are particularly bad because
>> >> the greeny loony lefties have been blocking bushfire hazard
>> >> reduction measures in the national parks. This is rejected as
>> >> nonsense by bushfire experts, but the claim doesn't have to be
>> >> accurate to make its impact. And that's the problem. Populist
>> >> politics has found the faultline in modern democracy, where things
>> >> don't have to be true, or even make sense, to influence voting
>> >> patterns; they use tactics of misinformation and misdirection as a
>> >> deliberate policy to sustain themselves in power. And the left/green
>> >> parties haven't yet found a way to counteract those tactics, or to
>> >> tap into the huge groundswell of opinion which is undoubtedly
>> >> building behind environmentalist causes, particularly amongst the
>> >> young. In countries like the UK young people just take it for
>> >> granted that something urgently needs to be done about the
>> >> environment; but they don't have any faith in the political parties
>> >> to deliver the required changes. So their convictions don't
>> >> translate into votes. And you can't blame them. The environment
>> >> hardly featured as an issue in the election we just had.
>> >>
>> >> Things are going to change, I'm sure. But how much damage is the
>> >> planet going to sustain before the changes happen? It's a
>> >> frightening prospect.
>> >>
>> >> Edward
>> >>
>> >> On 05/01/2020 13:10, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hi alan,
>> >>
>> >> it is truly devastating & catastrophic what is happening in
>> >> australia, & outrageous that the government there continues to be so
>> >> fucking stupid. i heard that scott morrison (the prime minister, who
>> >> chose to have a hawaiian holiday in the midst of it all) would fly
>> >> out to china to discuss trade negotiations, including coal mining,
>> >> immediately after meeting with fire chiefs. his inability to make
>> >> the connections is staggering.
>> >>
>> >> i have many family and friends in australia and everyone is affected
>> >> in some way; some have lost property, everyone is affected by the
>> >> smoke, my family & friends in new zealand are also seeing and
>> >> breathing the smoke. yes, an estimated half a billion birds, animals
>> >> & insects have died. and the fires are still burning, many out of
>> >> control, and no end in sight. this level of catastrophe has been
>> >> predicted - but not for another decade; everything is accelerating.
>> >>
>> >> what can we do? suzon posted this list of donation links:
>> >>
>> >
>> https://www.abc.net.au/classic/read-and-watch/news/bushfire-donations/11823676
>> >> - there are plenty of places to make financial donations & if you
>> >> are in australia there are practical things you can do to help.
>> >>
>> >> we can write to scott morrison (@scottmorrisonmp on twitter) and
>> >> other australian politicians, urging them to take the climate
>> >> emergency seriously (australia is one of the worst countries in the
>> >> world in terms of climate policy:
>> >>
>> >
>> https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-climate-change-policy-ranked-57-out-of-61-countries
>> )
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> a related campaign that is well worth supporting is the long
>> >> struggle against the adani coal mine - is a major fossil-fuel
>> >> extraction project which will contribute massively to global warming
>> >> as well as being totally unethical. the queensland government
>> >> illegally rescinded native title to allow the mine to go ahead, &
>> >> the wangan & jagalingou indigenous people have been bankrupted
>> >> trying to stop the mine.
>> >> https://wanganjagalingou.com.au/pledge-to-stand-with-us/
>> >> https://www.acf.org.au/email_siemens_global
>> >>
>> >> it's hard to wish a happy new year in the face of all of this (not
>> >> to mention the tragic zoo fire in germany, 30 primates killed thanks
>> >> to someone's carelessness) but i can only hope that the scale of
>> >> devastation will force politicians to accept that they must act,
>> >> urgently, and that we will enter into a decade of positive change
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> h xx
>> >> On 03.01.20 20:26, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (Apologies for a 2nd post today; I think the situation warrants it.
>> >> How do we, as a community, respond to this? To the approx. 480m
>> >> killed? To a Ballard future collapsing around us? How do we stop
>> >> from harming ourselves, how can we act intelligently with this like
>> >> this - on top of all the other horrors? Because this is going to
>> >> spread of course; the ash on NZ glaciers accelerating melt. What do
>> >> we do? What do we do as a community?)
>> >>
>> >> Fires in Australia
>> >>
>> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.jpg (map)
>> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.mp3 (radio)
>> >>
>> >> In Pennsylvania, we had house-destroying floods, mine fires,
>> >> highly polluted air. We went back and explored the area (around
>> >> Wilkes-Barre/Kingston) last April. I've had my own things
>> >> destroyed in floods several times, oddly including a storage
>> >> container in Los Angeles, a closet in Providence, my parents'
>> >> house in Kingston. But nothing, ever, like this. Reading Ballard,
>> >> the world's future is spelled out as a scenario for now. Teaching
>> >> "The Year 3000" back in the early 70s, I was face-to-face with
>> >> the statistics. I've continue to talk and write and think about
>> >> this. I was influenced by post-modern geography, and by the
>> >> collapsed flora of the Carboniferous/Pennsylvanian, which I
>> >> collected. I grew up negative. I've been following the fires and
>> >> started interviewing a few people by Skype, people from eastern
>> >> Australia. I'm trying to make sense of this, trying to find
>> >> optimism in a situation which I see as the beginning of something
>> >> problematic, horrifying. (I'll send the interviews out to the
>> >> lists.) I listened late last night (here) to the radio - a short
>> >> segment is above. The map gives some indication of locations.
>> >>
>> >> There was a report that 480 million animals have died in the
>> >> fires. It's inconceivable, as is the number.
>> >>
>> >> Best, hopefully, Alan
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com
>> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>> >> http://www.upstage.org.nz
>> >>
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