[NetBehaviour] Fires in Australia

Mon Jan 6 21:03:10 CET 2020

Excellent Mezz thanks for sharing intelligent and touching
Ana

El El lun, 6 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 16:51, Ann Light via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> escribió:

> Wow. This is such a good piece for sharing. Thanks. Love and rage, Ann
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:28 PM Mez Breeze via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> Just watch this, it'll tell u all you ned to know regarding the Aus gov's
>> response to the fires: https://youtu.be/buw5WufsP5k.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM T via NetBehaviour <
>> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>>
>>> hi
>>> excellent idea edward this could work as plan to the capital world!
>>>
>>> bolsonaro was elected cause vast majority of us are like him
>>> unfortunately that  is all we have been taught to be blind
>>>
>>> behind the idea that we already consume daily other species nature far
>>> more than is acceptable
>>>
>>> blind to our obvious violent racist patriarchal specist origins
>>>
>>> our cosmologies are falling right now, as it has been for some time
>>>
>>> as krenak indigenous xama say we better use coloured parachutes for the
>>> fall
>>>
>>> art, rituals, repair and care
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 2020-01-05 12:17, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour escreveu:
>>> > Ana,
>>> >
>>> > As for Bolsonaro, it's my belief, and has been for many years, that if
>>> > the West expects a country like Brazil to preserve rainforests and
>>> > biodiversity on behalf of the whole world, then they have to pay them
>>> > to do it, and I mean serious money. It should be worth more
>>> > financially to preserve the forests and export oxygen for the benefit
>>> > of the rest of us than to cut them down and plant palm oil or create
>>> > beef farms or whatever. Then there wouldn't be any argument.
>>> >
>>> > Bolsonaro is an arsehole, but wagging a finger at him in the style of
>>> > Macron isn't going to make him budge.
>>> >
>>> > Edward
>>> >
>>> > On 05/01/2020 15:05, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Thanks for sharing so important inputs and thoughts! I feel a
>>> >> growing frustration about how politicians are handling this issues.
>>> >> In the worst draugh a province in Australia sold the common water to
>>> >> a private enterprise.
>>> >> And neither Bolsonaro or Morrison or Trump are acting as leaders in
>>> >> time of a crisis. They carry on and on and on not relating fires to
>>> >> capitalism and its ways, fracking and mining.
>>> >> They despise the knowledge of scientists and of the aboriginal ways
>>> >> to live and work they blame the people speaking about climate
>>> >> change.
>>> >> I assume many on this list are familiar with Donna Haraway. Her
>>> >> writings about the Anthroposcene a new age where we, Mankind, are
>>> >> responsible for disasters and ways to live which unsettle Nature and
>>> >> the natural order are very important and give advice and
>>> >> explanations.
>>> >> Ana
>>> >>
>>> >> El El dom, 5 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 11:43, Edward Picot via
>>> >> NetBehaviour <netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> escribió:
>>> >>
>>> >> Helen,
>>> >>
>>> >> That's really useful information about the donation links and the
>>> >> Adani coal mine. I didn't know about the coal mine before.
>>> >>
>>> >> As for Scott Morrison and his government, I think there's more to it
>>> >> than sheer stupidity. As with Trump and Boris Johnson, there's a
>>> >> right-wing populist agenda at play, which is all about protecting
>>> >> and promoting the interests of big business, but it sustains itself
>>> >> in power by appealing to certain lowest-common-denominator
>>> >> prejudices in the minds of the voting public, and serving up what
>>> >> are basically lies to reinforce its appeal. So Morrison has now
>>> >> moved on from claiming that the link between bushfires and global
>>> >> warming is all in the minds of urban woke greeny loony lefties; he's
>>> >> now claiming that he never denied that link in the first place; but
>>> >> he's also making out that the bushfires are particularly bad because
>>> >> the greeny loony lefties have been blocking bushfire hazard
>>> >> reduction measures in the national parks. This is rejected as
>>> >> nonsense by bushfire experts, but the claim doesn't have to be
>>> >> accurate to make its impact. And that's the problem. Populist
>>> >> politics has found the faultline in modern democracy, where things
>>> >> don't have to be true, or even make sense, to influence voting
>>> >> patterns; they use tactics of misinformation and misdirection as a
>>> >> deliberate policy to sustain themselves in power. And the left/green
>>> >> parties haven't yet found a way to counteract those tactics, or to
>>> >> tap into the huge groundswell of opinion which is undoubtedly
>>> >> building behind environmentalist causes, particularly amongst the
>>> >> young. In countries like the UK young people just take it for
>>> >> granted that something urgently needs to be done about the
>>> >> environment; but they don't have any faith in the political parties
>>> >> to deliver the required changes. So their convictions don't
>>> >> translate into votes. And you can't blame them. The environment
>>> >> hardly featured as an issue in the election we just had.
>>> >>
>>> >> Things are going to change, I'm sure. But how much damage is the
>>> >> planet going to sustain before the changes happen? It's a
>>> >> frightening prospect.
>>> >>
>>> >> Edward
>>> >>
>>> >> On 05/01/2020 13:10, Helen Varley Jamieson wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> hi alan,
>>> >>
>>> >> it is truly devastating & catastrophic what is happening in
>>> >> australia, & outrageous that the government there continues to be so
>>> >> fucking stupid. i heard that scott morrison (the prime minister, who
>>> >> chose to have a hawaiian holiday in the midst of it all) would fly
>>> >> out to china to discuss trade negotiations, including coal mining,
>>> >> immediately after meeting with fire chiefs. his inability to make
>>> >> the connections is staggering.
>>> >>
>>> >> i have many family and friends in australia and everyone is affected
>>> >> in some way; some have lost property, everyone is affected by the
>>> >> smoke, my family & friends in new zealand are also seeing and
>>> >> breathing the smoke. yes, an estimated half a billion birds, animals
>>> >> & insects have died. and the fires are still burning, many out of
>>> >> control, and no end in sight. this level of catastrophe has been
>>> >> predicted - but not for another decade; everything is accelerating.
>>> >>
>>> >> what can we do? suzon posted this list of donation links:
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/classic/read-and-watch/news/bushfire-donations/11823676
>>> >> - there are plenty of places to make financial donations & if you
>>> >> are in australia there are practical things you can do to help.
>>> >>
>>> >> we can write to scott morrison (@scottmorrisonmp on twitter) and
>>> >> other australian politicians, urging them to take the climate
>>> >> emergency seriously (australia is one of the worst countries in the
>>> >> world in terms of climate policy:
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s-climate-change-policy-ranked-57-out-of-61-countries
>>> )
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> a related campaign that is well worth supporting is the long
>>> >> struggle against the adani coal mine - is a major fossil-fuel
>>> >> extraction project which will contribute massively to global warming
>>> >> as well as being totally unethical. the queensland government
>>> >> illegally rescinded native title to allow the mine to go ahead, &
>>> >> the wangan & jagalingou indigenous people have been bankrupted
>>> >> trying to stop the mine.
>>> >> https://wanganjagalingou.com.au/pledge-to-stand-with-us/
>>> >> https://www.acf.org.au/email_siemens_global
>>> >>
>>> >> it's hard to wish a happy new year in the face of all of this (not
>>> >> to mention the tragic zoo fire in germany, 30 primates killed thanks
>>> >> to someone's carelessness) but i can only hope that the scale of
>>> >> devastation will force politicians to accept that they must act,
>>> >> urgently, and that we will enter into a decade of positive change
>>> >> ...
>>> >>
>>> >> h xx
>>> >> On 03.01.20 20:26, Alan Sondheim wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> (Apologies for a 2nd post today; I think the situation warrants it.
>>> >> How do we, as a community, respond to this? To the approx. 480m
>>> >> killed? To a Ballard future collapsing around us? How do we stop
>>> >> from harming ourselves, how can we act intelligently with this like
>>> >> this - on top of all the other horrors? Because this is going to
>>> >> spread of course; the ash on NZ glaciers accelerating melt. What do
>>> >> we do? What do we do as a community?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Fires in Australia
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.jpg (map)
>>> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/Victoria.mp3 (radio)
>>> >>
>>> >> In Pennsylvania, we had house-destroying floods, mine fires,
>>> >> highly polluted air. We went back and explored the area (around
>>> >> Wilkes-Barre/Kingston) last April. I've had my own things
>>> >> destroyed in floods several times, oddly including a storage
>>> >> container in Los Angeles, a closet in Providence, my parents'
>>> >> house in Kingston. But nothing, ever, like this. Reading Ballard,
>>> >> the world's future is spelled out as a scenario for now. Teaching
>>> >> "The Year 3000" back in the early 70s, I was face-to-face with
>>> >> the statistics. I've continue to talk and write and think about
>>> >> this. I was influenced by post-modern geography, and by the
>>> >> collapsed flora of the Carboniferous/Pennsylvanian, which I
>>> >> collected. I grew up negative. I've been following the fires and
>>> >> started interviewing a few people by Skype, people from eastern
>>> >> Australia. I'm trying to make sense of this, trying to find
>>> >> optimism in a situation which I see as the beginning of something
>>> >> problematic, horrifying. (I'll send the interviews out to the
>>> >> lists.) I listened late last night (here) to the radio - a short
>>> >> segment is above. The map gives some indication of locations.
>>> >>
>>> >> There was a report that 480 million animals have died in the
>>> >> fires. It's inconceivable, as is the number.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best, hopefully, Alan
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >> helen at creative-catalyst.com
>>> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com
>>> >> http://www.upstage.org.nz
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