[NetBehaviour] NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 947, Issue 1
Edward Picot
julian.lesaux at gmail.com
Sun Jul 5 15:56:18 CEST 2020
Danielle,
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> 1. Conversations with Ghosts * (Alan Sondheim)
> 2. Re: 60 years ago today - music transmission across 4
> generations of Catlows (Graziano Milano)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com <mailto:sondheim at panix.com>>
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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> Subject: [NetBehaviour] Conversations with Ghosts *
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> Conversations with Ghosts *
>
> Edward Schneider, alto sax
> Alan Sondheim, viola Braguesa, Musima guitar
>
> http://www.alansondheim.org/altamusima1.jpg
> http://www.alansondheim.org/newmusima.mp3
> http://www.alansondheim.org/newbraga.mp3
> http://www.alansondheim.org/altabraga1.jpg
>
> * When was the Sound from Where?
>
> We used Zoom for discussion and listening and at my end a Zoom
> recorder; Edward used a mic feeding directly into his computer.
> Delay all over the place and we worked with it. We've played
> together a lot in the past; he's on some of our recordings. Zoom
> and Zoom are not related. I love his music and the way we relate.
> I used tricks to get the sound present. So we heard delays live
> of course, counted down out of sync at the start, he sent me .aif
> files, I converted to .wav to match mine, did an initial edit in
> Audacity and a final edit in Audition. We're happy with this. We
> also recorded playing with pithkiavlin, shakuhachi, dutar, and
> rababa; these were trickier. Hope you enjoy the music as much as
> we enjoyed making it. More most likely coming soon.
>
> --
>
> culling our interactions - amazingly Finally, album, Schneider,
> bird. music! footprint shale, Schneider records. Photographed
> spot Peggy's Cove where, 70s, fell Playing_session_with_Edward_
> Schneider_(alto_sax)_"Schneiderman seemed nearly that when he was
> asked by a young girl in the Schneider says no one is coming out,
> no humming, <k>denied Koresh Playing session with Edward
> Schneider with Edward Schneider on tenor, which brings Edward
> Schneider alto sax Edward Schneider alto sax - Edward Schneider,
> alto sax, a bit of singing! Edward Schneider, Schneider, Azure
> Carter and the sweet bird of paradise, and least one great
> review! The album, with Azure Carter, Edward Schneider, Chris
> 2014 Finally, have a new album, with Chris Diasparra and Edward
> Schneider, on 2014 Our new cd with Azure's songs and my playing,
> backed by Edward Schneider Schneider, with cover images from the
> work we've done in the Edward Schneider. I'm really happy with
> this - the music is Schneider: Cutting Board Edward Schneider,
> alto saxophone Alan Sondheim with Christopher Diasparra and
> Edward Schneider Diasparra (on tenor and baritone) and Schneider
> (on alto), who, Alan Sondheim with Christopher Diasparra & Edward
> Schneider, tenor and baritone saxes, and Edward Schneider on the
> alto sax. improv more than free jazz per se, though Schneider and
> With Chris Diasparra!, Edward Schneider!, Jackson Moore!
> Diasparra/Edward Schneider ESP-Disk' album Cutting Board and
> Schneider Edward Schneider, alto sax Schneider-Sondheim
> Apocalyptic Improvisations Sat for Frank Scha for DS Schell, for
> Schneider for Roddy Schr songs and my playing, backed by Edward
> Schneider ... 2015 I do a Schneider, and myself. The Studio was
> Michael Hamburger's, in Brooklyn. Roy Schneider Trudy Asia Asia
> Asia riscatto alante Motel session Edward Schneider
> ================== AVATARS amazingly Finally, album, Schneider,
> Edward Schneider Lynne Sachs Eric Rickstad Amir Parsa Various
> bird. music! footprint shale, Schneider records. Photographed
> spot Peggy's Cove where, 70s, fell Edward Schneider, alto; Alan
> Sondheim, guitar
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:53:27 +0100
> From: Graziano Milano <grazmaster at googlemail.com
> <mailto:grazmaster at googlemail.com>>
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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> Cc: Edward Picot <julian.lesaux at gmail.com
> <mailto:julian.lesaux at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 60 years ago today - music transmission
> across 4 generations of Catlows
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> Hi Ruth,
>
> My sister has all the bed sheets, table cloths, doilies, etc..
> that my mum
> embroidered. Here are four of my baby aprons that she embroidered
> after I
> was born in May 1967. And some drawings printed on tissue paper
> that my mum
> embroidered to decorate the fabric of her bed sheets.
>
> My mum was born in 1928 and during those times in Italy her
> generation were
> only able to go to primary state schools from the age of 6 to 11. The
> secondary schools were private and expensive. So my grandparents,
> as they
> were both busy working at making and selling cakes, ice-creams,
> granitas,
> etc, sent my mum to the local catholic convent where the nuns were
> running
> embroidery workshops to a group of young girls. I remember my mum
> telling
> me how she really enjoyed those creative workshops. Then when I
> was a child
> both my older sister and my mum constantly entertained me by drawing
> together and telling me the histories of our local village.
>
> [image: MyBabyAprons_GrazMum.jpg]
> [image: BedSheetDrawing_GrazMum.jpg]
>
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 14:44, Michael Szpakowski
> <m at michaelszpakowski.org <mailto:m at michaelszpakowski.org>>
> wrote:
>
> > What a marvellous marvellous photo Ruth! Thanks for sharing it
> with us
> > all...
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
> >
> > On Saturday, June 27, 2020, 3:31 pm, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> > netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org
> <mailto:netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote:
> >
> > All the Wowzers!
> >
> > I especially love the accompanying documents. Michael I remember
> being
> > bowled over by The Enemy of the People when I first saw it all
> those years
> > ago.
> > Helen, Gretta, Graziano do you have photos of your family's
> needlework and
> > knitting?
> >
> > Here is the photo I mentioned.
> >
> > [image: image.png]
> >
> > Hurrah!
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:35 AM Mark Hancock
> <mark at memecortex.net <mailto:mark at memecortex.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm loving these, please keep sharing. The thing I inherited was
> less a
> > skill, and more an attitude. My Dad was a brickie from
> Birmingham who had a
> > love of jazz and classical music. So I grew up in a household
> full of
> > literature and music. That idea that no matter your 'station in
> life' or
> > your education, arts are there for everyone, from high to low
> culture (if
> > those distinctions even exist still), still drives and informs
> the way I
> > approach art today.
> >
> > And I'm definitely jealous of your father, Edward. I'd love to have
> > written for the British Transport films! Or GPO.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 22:51, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour <
> > netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org
> <mailto:netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I love this thread!
> >
> > My father was Paul Le Saux, who used to write scripts for British
> > Transport Films. They made travelogues, part-documentary and
> part-artsy,
> > about various aspects of the railway network, and the places in
> Britain to
> > which the trains could take you.
> >
> > I always used to assume that I got my creativity from him, and he
> > certainly encouraged me to write when I was young. He died when
> I was six
> > years old. But actually I think I also inherited quite a lot from my
> > maternal grandfather, who was a merchant seaman, an engineer,
> and later a
> > foreman at the docks in Belvedere on the Thames. In his spare
> time he was
> > also a bellringer, and I've got some notebooks of his, in which
> he wrote
> > out peal-sequences for different numbers of bells.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> > On 24/06/2020 23:50, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
> >
> > I can't claim any great cultural heritage apart , on my UK
> side, from an
> > intimate knowledge of the Methodist Hymn book, and the fact my
> mother late
> > into her life desperately regretted that she'd never been able
> to learn the
> > accordion, which she had *so* wanted to do instead of the piano.
> > She also only ever wrote one poem, at school, and it was clearly
> important
> > to her, this creative act, because she remembered & recited it
> to the end
> > of her life:
> >
> > *See the little Daisy bright*
> > *Standing there, all through the night*
> > *Pink tipped petals, golden centre*
> > *Let us go to the castle and enter.*
> >
> > Whatever frustrated creative drive she had, she later channeled
> into an
> > almost supernatural ability to make house plants of all
> varieties grow and
> > thrive.
> > My Dad was entirely uninterested in culture except for the
> Saturday pm ITV
> > wrestling and Cossack dancing displays. He did however love
> nature with a
> > passion and I inherited that.
> > As for documents -a couple of weeks ago my cousin Jaros?aw sent
> me a piece
> > of testimony from my father which must have been given in 43 or
> 44 & has
> > been in the Hoover collection in the States ever since.
> > When he related this he was three years younger than my daughter
> is now.
> > One of my very first pieces of 'net art' (sounds quaint now) made in
> > Director, but now just a piece of video, dealt with the same
> subjects.
> >
> > The testimony:
> > https://bit.ly/37ZZcns
> >
> >
> > The piece:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYPBBYPyzxA
> >
> > cheers
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 10:18:04 AM GMT+1, Ruth Catlow via
> NetBehaviour
> > <netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org
> <mailto:netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org>>
> > <netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org
> <mailto:netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Renee and Mark,
> > I too would like to hear of other's creative/skill inheritances.
> Nice idea
> > Mark... go for it.
> > <3
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:13 AM Mark Hancock
> <mark at memecortex.net <mailto:mark at memecortex.net>> wrote:
> >
> > I second Ren?e's thoughts. I love that idea that playing is
> bringing the
> > past back in such an active and evocative way.
> >
> > I'd be interested in the creative skills and tools of the trade
> that other
> > people on the list have inherited, if I may be so bold as to
> high-jack your
> > email thread, Ruth?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:59, Renee Turner <geuzen at xs4all.nl
> <mailto:geuzen at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > That?s beautifully moving Ruth <3 This post made my day.
> >
> > warmly,
> >
> > Ren?e
> >
> > -._.-._.-._.- R*
> >
> >
> > ****************************
> > a virtual embrace
> > wishing health & well-being to all
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> > netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org
> <mailto:netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I have been playing my violin again since lock down and I came
> across this
> > sheet music for the second 2nd Bach Partita that I played when I
> was much
> > younger.
> >
> > You can see from the inscription that it was a birthday present
> from Rolf,
> > my paternal grandfather, to his father exactly 60 years ago today.
> >
> > My dad John, who was a professional cellist, has a photo from
> this time of
> > the three generations of men playing chamber music: Dad on
> cello, Rolf on
> > the piano, and my great grandfather, Arthur, playing the violin.
> >
> > <image.png>
> >
> > There is something very moving to me about this cultural
> inheritance, and
> > I wanted to share it with you all :)
> >
> > warmly
> > Ruth
> >
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> >
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> through exhibitions,
> > labs & debate, for deep exploration, open tools & free thinking.
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> <http://www.furtherfield.org/>
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> > technologies research hub
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